There's a Problem!

[Daniel Wood]

Lyrics from the group Pink Floyd.

Hello, hello, helloooo,

Is there anybody in there

Just nod if you can hear me

Is there anyone at home

Come ooon now

I hear you're feeling down

I can ease your pain And get you on your feet again

Relax, relax, relaaax

I'll need some information first

Just the basic facts, can you show me where it hurts

I................

Have become comfortably numb


What's going on with every one?

Why aren't you posting?

[Troadster]

WOW that is deep!!! It's like Cat needs to be spelled like dog...........................

[vetteonr]

We're all at the Hotel California........come join us :D :D

[danny]

one pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all :eek: :D

[SKISTEVE]

Telephone is ringing, got me on the run, I driving in my car now, Intention patience fun, I'm driving right up to you Babe, can't you see ya ya

[olddog]

Maybe this will get everyone talking.

GM attempting to purchase Chrysler. So lets see, if a poor company buys a worse company, and they combine their inferiour tallents, that will make a better company? It doesn't help them compete. It just takes out one competetor. Usually this results in a more monopolistic position that allows them to ask top dollar for lousy cars. However it will not work as foriegn compitition is too big, and they lost the buy american croud, as very little is still made in the USA.

Ford will rule forever! :cool:

Now if that doesn't start a silly contest, this place is dead. :rolleyes:

[danny]

i'll have some of what olddog is smoking :eek: :D

[vetteonr]

Ok, here's the scoop from my son's future father-in-law who works for Chrysler. Cerberus, which owns Chrysler, is a financial company and wants to own all of GMAC. Right now they own about 51% of it. GM really only wants one thing and one thing only.......the Jeep line. Cerberus is also looking to buy the rest of Chrysler from Daimler Benz which still owns a piece of it. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

[dougbfresh]

Chrysler is TOAST. After Jeep, what do they have that anyone would want? I can't see how MoPar has lasted this long.

[danny]

i agree, other than jeep chrysler has nothing to offer. i don't think it's any secret that the pickup line has the worst gas mpg and other than the attempt at making some comeback names like charger :eek: and challenger :cool: i think they are in real trouble. i think they bought jeep because they thought that by eliminating their pickup and keeping the rest they could recover-not so.

[dougbfresh]

If the Germans couldn't save them (and basically GAVE THEM AWAY to Cerebus), there's no hope. Their CEO Nardelli tanked Home Depot, now he's working on Chrysler. I stopped by a Dodge dealer last night just to get a closeup of the Challenger-the MPG is HIDEOUS compared to a Vette.

[olddog]

Yep. Pretty dead around here.

Ford stock price is down to a few bucks and GM isn't far from it. Maybe we could pool our money a buy a car company. :D

[Troadster]

Yep. Pretty dead around here.

Ford stock price is down to a few bucks and GM isn't far from it. Maybe we could pool our money a buy a car company. :D


I got 5 buck's.........................Lets see pool money or by a lottery ticket




HUmmmmmmmmm my money would be better spent on the lottery. :p

[justen]

Right now, the only dodge I'll take is with a cummins. Other then that I don't care for dodge alot. With a cummin's you need to be careful if you have the automatic transmission. They are known to just die. The stick you maybe ok. As far as interior. My nephew has a 2000 dodge pickup. I tell ya sitting in there it doesn't impress me. Everything looks like plastic. I mean worse then ford or chevy. Dodge has a nice deal with the back seat that folds down into the floor if you have the extended cab. Other then that, nothing to brag about.. I'm amazed they are still in business. Our police department has one dodge charger. But other then that I'm not interested in a charger. Jeep is about the only thing somewhat decent. Even though I like the older jeeps better. I don't care for the jeep Cherokee. Last night they said gm might be working with chrysler. Well I hope gm doesn't adopt their fuel mileage. That new dodge hemi. When that first came out there was alot of talk about it. Now I don't hear much. Maybe they just get that bad of mileage I dunno.

[danny]

i was watching some reruns of barrett-jackson fools with money. i cannot believe what the old mopars(60's and 70's) were bringing. apparently the people that were buying them didn't ever own one of them. i had the unfortunate opportunity to have have a few of them and i can say they weren't worth the scrap prices the salvage yards got for them. bad transmissions, thin sheet metal, a wide array of electrical problems and the worst fuel economy of anything out there. it's good to know that the poor mpg is still in their repertoire.

[olddog]

Danny I don't know what you had, but the Torque Flight was one of the heaviest duty trannies ever designed. Practically bullet proof drive trains was well reconized by all abjective observers for Mopar back in the day.

I agree the bodies were thin and poorly coated underneath, which caused them to rust from the inside out. Ford was as bad or worse. GM did a decent job on the underside, but the laquer paint didn't hold up on the outside.

I owned and was quite happy with many 60's and early 70's Mopar. My 1968 Dodge charger with 383 would get 15 MPG every day running the crap out of it and 20 MPG on the highway. None of my Chevy of that erra would get that good of MPG, with the exception of a 68 Camaro with a 250 cid 6 cylinder.

[danny]

glad you have good memories of your mopar experience. i last owned a 70 'cuda. 383 magnum 727 torque flite-for sure it would abuse the tires but for some reason i had trouble with that transmission and i also had other mopars that were an experiment at getting home. i learned early that the charging systems were fragile and to not jump start any of my friends cars and the ballast for the ignition would burn up without warning, i kept an extra one with me in the glovebox at all times. later the lean burn system was a winner too.

[olddog]

I would say some one, some where, along the line did something very stupid to your tranny, if you had problems with it. I destroyed one Torque Flight but listen to what was done to it. While intoxicated, at WOT, shifted from first to reverse at 5000+ rpm (not proud of that fact), but that didn't hurt it a bit. Several years of the normal rev it in nutral and drop it in gear, and it took it all. After all this I dropped in a radical built engine (likely 450-500 hp) that idled about 1500 rpm. Had to put in nutral to keep the tires from spinning at traffic lights and dropping it in gear chirped the tires pretty good. Then one day I dropped it into gear at about 4000 rpm and it finally bit the dust, but it still got me home. Now I was 17-19 when I owned it, and I would say I abused it to rediculous extreames. Not saying anything I did should ever be emulated by anyone else, but the point is those were darn well designed trannys.

PS - I loved the 70 cuda.

[olddog]

I cannot say I jumped a lot of cars, but I did several times without issues. I think I replaced a few alternators over the years when bearing went out, but I couldn't say if it was a mopar or a chevy.

I never had a ballast resistor go bad, but if you put high performance coil on them without changing out the ballast resistor, you would fry it every time. Also leaving the key on without starting the engine was hard on them, too. I put an accel (sp?) ignition system on the mega engine. Changed distributor, coil, and all the goodies that they recommended and never had any problems.

Often times hot rodders screwed a car up pretty bad and sold it to some unsuspecting person, who then thought the car was junk. Not fair to judge a car company based on one car that some idiot kid hacked up, but plenty of people do it.

In all honesty, back in the day Ford was my least favorite, because you could never buy a part without the old one with you. Chevy was the easiest to work on and some of the best styling. Mopar was a hard to work on, but made some impressive power. I felt Mopar could take the hardest pounding.

[danny]

i will let you argue with yourself but i know that i had more than one of these cars and i didn't have the same results as you. i guess used cars can have a few problems :rolleyes: . i would never base any judgement on only one specimen as suggested. i do think the older mopars were better than the newer ones but maybe i'm just nostalgic. i like the new challenger's look but not the charger-to each his own i guess. i am a fan of the orphan cars and my uncle was the proud owner of a 51 commander. i had hoped that when he passed i would get it but he sold it before he passed away :( . my first car was a 60 studebaker lark8, my uncle sort of talked me into buying it. i don't remember having any problems with it but then again i was under the hood tinkering/learning a lot of what not to do. thank goodness my uncle was handy with tools :eek: :D

[olddog]

i would never base any judgement on only one specimen as suggested. i do think the older mopars were better than the newer ones but maybe i'm just nostalgic. i like the new challenger's look but not the charger-to each his own i guess.

Sorry I didn't mean to accuse you of one bad experiance. I agree with the new Charger and Challenger comments.

Not to argue, I owned 3 my dad had 5 Mopar. All were decent. But by the mid to late 70's they were making junk. I owned a bunch a Chevys and one Ford. The only problem car I owned was a 70 Nova, and I never understood how anyone could have screwed a car up that bad. I honestly never had much problem with any brand back in the day. The biggest difference I could see was ease to work on. Chevy was by far the easiest, and the parts interchanged easily. Ford was the worst for no two parts being made the same. Golly there were 6 different V-8 engine families in the 60's and more bell housings and mounts than I care to remember, while Chevy had one mount and bell housing that fit 4, 6, 8, small or big block.

Today most cars are front wheel drive and every front wheel drive with anything bigger than a 4 cylinder is jam packed. The engines are designed to drop out the bottom on most. FWD pretty much killed the home handy man and hot rodder. That is why the Mustang has remained popular, but the modular is a tough engine to set up the timing chains on. That is one reason I like Ford today. They never abandoned the working man sport enthusiest (Vipers and Vetts are not very affordable). But I digress.

[danny]

i agree on the fwd cars, most that have a six are difficult to work on. i like rwd cars, i have owned an 84 camaro for several years(10+) but don't get to drive it much due to working schedules.