Remember When

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by danny
errr, you know making them is more fun than raising them lol :rolleyes:

oh I had forgot about that hum, can I get back to you on that..YO Adrean.

[danny]

adreanne barbeaux?

[Trader Ray]

thats her

[danny]

i remember her, haven't seen her lately though.

[Trader Ray]

probally did the smart thing and made the money and got out and got on with her life..

[danny]

you are probably right, she had a good run.

[Trader Ray]

I miss dream of Jeanie..

[danny]

i think barbara eden was one of the finest looking women on t.v.

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by danny
i think barbara eden was one of the finest looking women on t.v. What do you mean was she is still fine lookin the same with golde hawn

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
It is a great place to live. I miss family in Michigan, but I love it here and it is rough to explain, but there is a different life style anywhere one could be, I just really like it here.

Born and raised about 20 miles from Bristol, in the Tri-Cities. I've moved to other areas, like Alabama and Virginia, but seems like I always end up back in the mountains. It really does get in your blood. Makes you feel sorta uneasy when you look out on the horizon and everything's flat.

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by TNcarguy
Born and raised about 20 miles from Bristol, in the Tri-Cities. I've moved to other areas, like Alabama and Virginia, but seems like I always end up back in the mountains. It really does get in your blood. Makes you feel sorta uneasy when you look out on the horizon and everything's flat. Not to say any thing about the moon shine. And i do miss the country ham

[danny]

Originally posted by gearhead748
What do you mean was she is still fine lookin the same with golde hawn

i meant that she is not currently on t.v.-she is still fine

[Trader Ray]

From the post about Country ham to the one about Barbra Eden, all are correct. She is truely a gift.

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
From the post about Country ham to the one about Barbra Eden, all are correct. She is truely a gift. s10 I'm getting the that feeling to go ten-a-see-in that state is gods country and i've been in all 49 and canada and mexico. and your state is the best by far!!!!!!!!!!! ya'all. come back now here? lol

[Trader Ray]

Why thank ya, it is a nice place to be.

[thecarguy]

49 states eh? which one havent you been too?

Ive only been to 12 states but Ive also been to about 8 other countries so that kinda makes up for the states im missing out on.

[danny]

there's no place like home.

[Trader Ray]

But yet, home is where you make it. I am at home here and yet I was born in Michigan. I get there and feel like I am out of place, not because of family, just the surroundings.

[S-10Chevrolet]

Myself, Born And Raised in Knoxville, TN. Wouldn't have it any other way, I'd take the mountains over any other terrain. I just love the South. The Beach is too hot and sandy, the prairie is too flat, (been there, seen all of it standing in one place), desert - hot, west coast, too many people.
I'll be happy stayin' in Tennessee.

Love New Hampshire and Maine, all those upper east states though, beautiful, going to stay in NH for a while this summer before college. Tiny place called Melvin Village. Just a post office, hardware store and grocery store. If There wasn't a TN I'd be there.

[vetteonr]

What, no bar in Melvin Village? :D

[S-10Chevrolet]

I'm pretty sure there is one. Can't remember what it's called, but there is surely at least one.

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by thecarguy
49 states eh? which one havent you been too?

Ive only been to 12 states but Ive also been to about 8 other countries so that kinda makes up for the states im missing out on. Ha-y-eeeee.lol. seen it all from a big truck. 27 years and 2 million miles later now i drive local only. my wife gets mad she has never been to maney places she would say (I want to go there I tell her been there done that)

[thecarguy]

Im glad I didnt mess up in school or anything, but for a period of time I was considering being a trucker for a year or two just to see the country because I was doing terrible in school and it kinda perked me up to think about traveling.

[gearhead748]

its a hard life and you can blow a lot of money on the road.all in all I had a lot of fun and hauled every thing from soup to nuts. We had a young pup (fresh meat, lol) one time he thought going through the smoky mtn's were so high and steep,I had all could do to keep from laughing at him,I told him he ain't seen nothing yet he should try the rocky's out west in the winter I sat there at donner pass for three days wating for the dad blame snow storm to quit missed my appt. and sat fore another day to get empty, that was a bad run

[Trader Ray]

It also sounds like you wont soon forget.

[rapideo]

Originally posted by thecarguy
49 states eh? which one havent you been too?

Ive only been to 12 states but Ive also been to about 8 other countries so that kinda makes up for the states im missing out on.

Here's a new off topic, which state can not be reached with an eighteen wheeler? A dunking for everyone with the wrong answer

[Trader Ray]

Hawaii, I think.

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
Hawaii, I think. well if i put pontoons on my truck i can. LOL

[Wheel]

Originally posted by danny
i think barbara eden was one of the finest looking women on t.v.

Remember seeing her on the Andy Griffith Show? That was a good one.

[rapideo]

Originally posted by gearhead748
well if i put pontoons on my truck i can. LOL

At least lose that white line fever like that

[Wheel]

Anyone remember the Flying Pinto?

[Trader Ray]

No I can say I dont, but I do remember the first comercials for the pinto, it had about 4 girls pull up in one and get out and take most of it apart and then said, "Pinto, you can own one for $1995.00" What a deal huh!

[towtrucks]

I remember the exploding Pinto......hit from the rear and KABLOOM !!!!!!!!


(Holy Fireworks Batman)

[danny]

i vaguely(sp) remember a commercial where the mustang was driving among a herd of horses and then change scene to a pinto running with a herd of little ponies.

[Trader Ray]

I remember the Pinto explosion and the girl who was killed. That was a terrible time. Also the Chevy Blazer and Trucks with the side saddle tanks that were blown up.

[TNcarguy]

And, least we forget, Ralph Nader's "unsafe at any speed" Corvair. He got ahold of an old film of a Corvair spinning out and went nuts with it. If you looked at the film frame by frame, you could see the driver intentionally oversteering it.

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by Wheel
Anyone remember the Flying Pinto?

OK, I'll bite. What's the deal with the flying Pinto?

[Wheel]

Yep, It was a Pinto that had wings and flew back in the 70's. However it did crash after a few flights. I use to have a picture of it in flight but don't know what happen to it. To see pictures go to http://www.fordpinto.com/ then click on "bric-a-brac" and then click on "Flying Pinto" There you will find 3 pages about the Flying Pinto with several pictures.

[towtrucks]

WOW!!!!! There really is a site for Ford Pinto.......
What will be next??????
www.thisyugoreallyruns.com ????

[Daniel Wood]

Hey towtrucks I went to that web site (pintos) I don't know if it's true are not but I want too believe it, that $11 would have fixed a lot of the problems with the pinto. But the high and mighty Mr. Lee Iacocca wouldn't hear of it. Here are some web sites, and let yourself be the judge.

http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/SO77/dowie.html

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~sharoon/a1/A1disaster.htm

http://www.cs.rice.edu/~vardi/comp601/case2.html

[TNcarguy]

Looks like the same thing they did with the AMC in that James Bond film.

[Trader Ray]

Just goes to prove you can find any thing on the net,

[Wheel]

Originally posted by towtrucks
WOW!!!!! There really is a site for Ford Pinto.......
What will be next??????
www.thisyugoreallyruns.com ????


No, it's http://www.yugoworld.net or for even more pictures, jokes and much more, go to http://www.inet.hr/~bpauric/eindex.htm plus about another
[img]http://www.inet.hr/~bpauric/eindex.htm/[img] 113,778 more sites, aint that something? I tried to post a pictire of a limo but it didn't work

[vetteonr]

Didn't the flying pinto have the code name "pegasus"? lol :D

[towtrucks]

Well DUHH on me........
I NEVER thought Yugo would have a site, and my >thisyugoreallyruns< was just a joke !!!!!!
But then there is a "club" just for Edsel owners.......

[danny]

i remember edsels as being real ugly but had some innovative luxury items-like the shift buttons on the steering wheel

[vetteonr]

Yep, the Edsel......that was one of Ford's better ideas....he he he. The lesson here, never name a car after one of your sons. Talk about the black sheep of the family. :rolleyes:

[Trader Ray]

The only Edsel I have ever seen was in a museum, it sure had a lot of chrome..

[danny]

that chrome was like make-up it helped hide the uglyness of that thing. lol

[Trader Ray]

I would say you are right there.

[danny]

i think that early comets were a spin off of the edsel's styling-if you could call it that.

[vetteonr]

Chrome on an Edsel is like putting a tux on the elephant man. It is what it is! lol :D

[danny]

or a silk hat on a pig? lol :D

[gearhead748]

Originally posted by danny
or a silk hat on a pig? lol :D this should read like this( owning a ford is like putting earing's on a pig it may look good to you but it's still a pig) lol

[Beefy's Bronco]

Originally posted by gearhead748
this should read like this( owning a ford is like putting earing's on a pig it may look good to you but it's still a pig) lol

Driving a Chevy would be like sleeping with an ugly woman. It's ok as long as nobody see you.

Y'all started it LOL :D

[danny]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
Driving a Chevy would be like sleeping with an ugly woman. It's ok as long as nobody see you.

Y'all started it LOL :D

no, it's driving a ford is like marrying your sister-lol it's ok as long as nobody knows-i didn't start it henry did-lol :D

[fotw]

Danny go pick up the months Chevy mag, in there they compair 2 408 engines. One ford and one Chevy. And guess which one has more HP and torque??? That is right FORD!!!! It is only a few more but that should put an end to it. Ford will aways be better then Chevy, they proved it in a CHEVY mag. :)

[Daniel Wood]

Those Fords are a lot like relatives especially in law's, you know they are there you just don't want them around.

[danny]

Originally posted by fotw
Danny go pick up the months Chevy mag, in there they compair 2 408 engines. One ford and one Chevy. And guess which one has more HP and torque??? That is right FORD!!!! It is only a few more but that should put an end to it. Ford will aways be better then Chevy, they proved it in a CHEVY mag. :)

you read into the article what you want, more horsepower doesn't mean better-this doesn't prove anything and your ford will always be second at best-lol :D now don't get mad and don't single me out

[Trader Ray]

They put it in a Chevy magazine because it cost so much to build the ford they could not afford a magazine of their own..lol

[Beefy's Bronco]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
They put it in a Chevy magazine because it cost so much to build the ford they could not afford a magazine of their own..lol

I think this is getting personal for some of you guys. We live in America and the best way to solve a dilemma in America is to put it to a vote. I say we include all of the people in America in this vote and to keep it honest, we make them buy there vote. Oh wait, that has already happened. For the last 20 years this has been happening. And the vote is in: For the past 20 years Ford Trucks have outsold all others including Chebby/GMC combined. America has voted guys. And as a group, have decided Ford is number 1.

[Trader Ray]

Since we are talking trucks I will concead to the vote, congrats...lol

[vetteonr]

It depends on what you want, quanity or quality. I'll take quality. You can have your Ford, that's fine. I'm just glad we live in a country where we have a choice. Speaking of which, where's elbi been? Beefy, did you hurt his feelings? :rolleyes:

[danny]

i like to drive and that's why i own chevy, if i wanted a career in mechanics i would have bought a ford-lol-or even a dodge, i hope no one is taking the ribbing personal it's all good fun. also the reason ford trucks don't get traded in too much is that they don't have much value in the real world-lol :D

[vetteonr]

Very good points danny!

[danny]

(takes a bow) thank-you, seriously though, i really hope that no one takes offense-it's all fun

[vetteonr]

The Chevy vs. Ford debate is as old as the hills (as are most Ford drivers) Bada-Boom! Sorry, couldn't resist. :rolleyes:

[danny]

the debaters are the ford owners-we chevy owners don't have anything to prove.

[Beefy's Bronco]

Y'all just start it. LOL :D

[Trader Ray]

Putting all "preferances" aside. If you had to go buy a truck or car and it had to be the last one you could buy, so it needed to last for years, you need durability, what are you going to get? I am talking about todays vehicles. Do you stay brand loyal or do you see something you think would really last?

[Beefy's Bronco]

I don't know, That is a tough question.
First I think I'd go out and look at the Ford Trucks.
Then I would probably check out a Ford Truck.
After all that I am sure I would buy a Ford Truck.
Then again, perhaps I'd buy a Ford Truck.

LOL :D

[Trader Ray]

A tough question huh? it sounds like you are having trouble with the answer haha I really dont have a answer for that question either, I was just wondering..

[Beefy's Bronco]

Had to make a joke with it. Seriously though, I think durability is an issue with todays vehicles. I know allot of folks with brand new vehicles that are having some pretty nasty problems. I am not being brand specific here either. My Dad's new Ford Truck, my brothers new Chevy Cavalier, My buddies new Chevy Truck. They all have problems. My cousins new Dodge truck with the Hemi seems to be doing ok but not his wifes Durango (2 years old). I would take a new vehicle if it was givin to me and then promptly sell it and buy an older more durable model. But not your Jeep, want to give it to me? LOL :D

[Trader Ray]

Sorry but I just cant part with it just yet. Summers here! Oh then there is winter and 4 wheel drive. I really dont know but I would lean towards a Dodge based on they have been strong for so long, and I would love the Hemi as well. Just dreaming tho..lol

[danny]

i have to agree with you beefy, i have checked out most all of the new vehicles and must say that the eye candy is there but i am leary at best for quality and longevity. and i mean all brands not any one in particular. i really don't like the looks of any of the new trucks and a hemi or supercharger won't change my mind.

[Wheel]

Ford.

[Trader Ray]

The trucks are only needing a blade on top and they can fly like a helicopter.

[vetteonr]

Somebody tell Wheel he needs to shorten his posts. Too wordy. lol :D

[Trader Ray]

Wheels, you need to shorten up your post..haha

[towtrucks]

I just had to bring this topic back to the top...........
(he he he)

[Racerock]

I remember when I had my eyes on a 428 CobraJet Mustang for under $2,000. Mom would not let me buy it. Uggh, what an investment that would have been.

[carsandcycles]

I remember when:
You had to wait for the radio to warm up (AM only) because of tubes.
I remember when the windshield wipers slowed or stopped when you accelerated briskly. (Vacuum operated)
I remember when you didn't have ball joints and alot of cars used Kingpins.
I remember when a car's tire would have a blow out (rapid loss of air) because it used tubes. (Tubeless generally have slow leaks, though it's not unheard of having a rapid air loss type blowout)
I remember when air conditioning was very rare and even a heater was an option.
I remember when in order to choke an engine to start from cold, you pulled a cable connected knob and then pushed it back in when warm.
Heck, I even remember when cars didn't have any plastic in them.

I know most of these have been listed early, but just thought I'd get the ball rolling for some of our newer members.

[vetteonr]

I remember the time I could remember all these things. :rolleyes:

[Racerock]

Second thing that goes is your memory. Can't remember the first.

My 67 Cutlass Supreme was my Grandmothers from new. My dad and I brought it back from Kansas in '75. Get this, it had less than 8,000 miles on it at that time. But I digress. Back then, a lot of cars had crank 'em up windows in the back, but for some reason this one always fascinated me and my friends. I think it had something to do that it is a 2-door Post car, and it made you feel like it is your own little section of the car, separated from the parents up front.

Fast forward 30 years, and after a long casual restoration. My kids now think that the back windows are the coolest thing going. When their friends go for a ride, they show the windows off. Makes me crack up when they do the exact things that I did years ago. Rolling them down no matter what the temperature is, forgetting to roll them up, putting the hands out the windows, and putting their face in the wind. That, and flicking the ashtray lid that sits in the armrest, making that loud snapping/click sound that drove my dad crazy when we did it.

Some things never change, thank God.

[Porcupine]

I remember when my dad had a 1954 Austin A40, 4cyl, 4speed. I'm guessing but probably about 45 HP. there was this one hill with a road that we used to go up with all four of us in the car. Dad (being from the farm and used to use tractor terms) used to call first gear bull-low. That little car only made it half way up the hill before he decide to stop do his 3 point turn and come back down the hill. Get this. He had the nerve to call the car Mighty Mouse. Good name for my super powerful Aerostar. I'm sure it only has 45HP as well. :mad:

Today, any vehicle we take up that same hill doesn't even think about laboring. It's effortless. BTW no seat belts either. Oh, BTW $.28 gallon. Cigarettes about $.30 a pack and bread about$.25 a loaf and we made under a dollar per hour

[towtrucks]

I remember when people used words such as "please" and "thank you".
I remember when ALL fingers were exposed when waving.
I remember when gasoline was despensed from service stations.
I remember when married couples consisted of one of each: 1 man. 1 woman.
I remember when it was embarrassing if your underwear was exposed.
I remember when the "hard copy" came from a manual typewriter.
I remember when girls looked like girls, and boys looked like boys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[danny]

i remember the hand chokes as well, oh wait i have one in the jimmy-lol-:D i didn't buy the electric choke option for the edelbrock carb :)

[Beefy's Bronco]

According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's probably shouldn't have survived. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets, and when we rode
our bikes, we had no helmets. (not to mention the risks we took hitchhiking.)
As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors! We share one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle, and no one actually died from this.
We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streets lights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. No cell phones. Unthinkable.
We would spend hours buildings our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes! After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99
channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cell phones, personal computers, or Internet chat rooms. We had friends! We went outside and found them. We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones and teeth, and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms, and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever.! We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rang the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the
team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law and when we got home, more often than not, got our buts kicked by dad! Imagine that!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. That was also a time when we started the school day off with a class room prayer and our parents wouldn't go to jail for spanking us when we needed it. Go figure....We survived though, didn't we?

OH, AND ONE OTHER THING....IT NEVER MADE ME GO BLIND!!

[Porcupine]

Awesome post Beefster. No truer words have been spoken. I've read writings like that before but it's so true it's startling. What would happen to society if the Internet died and HDTV never made it. What would happen to society if we back-tracked. To be progressive is our nature, yet most of here long for the past, hence our visit to the past with old cars and antiques.

Just answer one question.

How come my eye prescription gets stronger every year?

[fotw]

I was lucky to have parents that had me do all those thing you listed beef. My best times were spent in a tree or out in the woods or rebuild a small engine with my father. Playing pickup football in the street without worry. Swimming in the river and ocean not a swimming pool the glowed becuase of all the chemicals in it. I learned by doing not by sitting back. This is why I think that I was born in the wrong generation. I would rather be outside takin a nap in my hammich (which I did today) then be inside playing games. I am not afaird to work hard and I dont feel right unless I do work hard. My family is not made of money and I did not have the newest or best of everything but I would not have traded my childhood for any other. I loved the scraped knees, camping, fishing all of the thing not many my age do.

I just wanted you to know that there still are kids that would rather be outside then infront of a TV. That would rather swim in something that did not have underground or aboveground in front of the name. That have strong work ethics that were taught to us by people from your time. Am I am **** proud to be one of them

Sorry if this turned into a rant but you got me imspired steve

[Beefy's Bronco]

FOTW, I have an open mind. I let people young and old show me what they are all about. You can go tell your father I said he did a fine job raising you.

[fotw]

Oh I know that you do and I thank you becuase most adults I know dont think that way and dismiss me very quickly. I just wanted to let you guys know that I know what you mean I am happy that I can relate with alot of your views

[Beefy's Bronco]

You have wisdom beyond your years......I wish I had that when I was young and dumb.

[danny]

that kid(fotw) has a lot of potential don't you think??

[Beefy's Bronco]

I agree. here we go with the great minds thing again.

[towtrucks]

Who can remember gas pumps that had a glass bowl on the side, or front, that had colored balls the moved around when the gas was pumped, and why were they there??

[Wheel]

I remember them, but never thought about why they was there.

[Daniel Wood]

I remember those too, but I was just a kid and never even thought to ask what they were for.

I'm gonna guess and say every time a certain ball made a full circle, that was a gallon of gas.

Second time:

Let me changed that, it was either balls or something that look like a fan in a glass bubble.

[danny]

just venturing a guess here-the balls kept the fuel and water mixed so the buyer would not think about the water content.

can you remember when the gas pumps had no provision for the dollar position? example being the pump could register $.99.9 but another position had to be created for the dollar-$1.75

[Wheel]

The pumps also had the crank on the side you turned to reset it back to $0.00 Later on they had a lever you flipped to clear

[Porcupine]

danny got part of it right.

The balance was to show air in the lines so if you saw bubbles the tanks were low. meaning you were pumping wind.
While rare, it could also show moisture content. But the biggest feature was the assurance that the customer got by seeing the "Flow" of things and he knew he was getting his gas removing any doubt. Durung some of those years, the average person was not too mechanically inclined and thought 'trickery' was involved when selling gas. So they made the the glass bubble as a reveal.

I worked in a Texaco back in the early 60's and don't think a young kid didn't ask that question.

Funny though, there's a few antique shops that have some of those gas pumps for sale, some restored, some not. You don't want to know what they sell for. I can't afford a gas pump but told wife yesterday as we were antique hunting that I wanted one of those old air pumps found at the side of the gas station.

BTW one of our local radio stations had a "Remember When" piece read on the air. I asked the talk show host if he'd send me a copy. If I get it I'll post it here. It's very similar to Beefy's but covers different areas.
I think those are awesome.

It wasn't about 2 weeks after Beefy posted his version and I heard the same one on the radios station. So those readings are floating around.

A&W Hamburgers and show off your car on a Friday/Saturday night? Dang speed bumps ruined the burnouts.

[danny]

the earliest gas dispensers had a metered glass container on the top of the pump, one would pump the container to the desired amount/level and then let gravity fill the fuel tank. these were also used to allow the consumer to see the product and allow them to know that they were getting what they paid for.

[Porcupine]

I thought about those ( a wee bit before my time :) ) right after I wrote the last post. I'm only guessing 20's, 30's & 40's?

It'd be nice to see all the different pumps as they modernized through the decades.

[Corv8]

I'll bet if you did a search on Google on Old gas pumps you could find all the different ones.

[vetteonr]

There's a place just outside of Ann Arbor called "Yesterday's Collections". They have all types of auto memoriabilia, including antique gas pumps. Very cool store. :cool: ;)

[Porcupine]

This is more specifically aimed towards vetteonr and corv8 because of locale.
There's a town just north of Sarnia Ont. called Grand Bend (Corv8 should know it) Grand Bend had a drag strip and was too well known for illegal drags racing back in the 70's. Rats I missed all the fun. :(

Just on the south end of town on the left side heading north there's a new styled barn and some outbuildings. It's all strictly an antique market.
The main barn is chaulk full of automitive memorbilia. Pumps, major large signs, small signs, old oil can still unopened. Some really unbelievable stuff. Wife and I are heading back there as soon as my van is fixed. The stuff is not cheap but man what a selection. I'm looking for an old air pump to mount on the outside of my shop.

[Corv8]

Yes I know of Grand Bend, but I did not know of the antique place. my wife is going to send you hate mail for telling me about that place LOL :D

[Porcupine]

I don't know about you guys but under the category of nastalgia, I recall for decades traveling the countryside with the family and seeking old buildings. More towards the turn of the century.

I love when I leave the city and the concrete sea, as it were, leaving the malls and stresses of the city behind.

Within a 50 mile radius there are plenty of small towns and villages. Some have houses, known as "Century Homes"

One small town, not far from here, (an hour away) has many of its homes older than 100years bearing plaques on the front reading:
'Circa 1876' or 'Circa 1853' or what ever year caters to that house. Some stone, some clapboard, some brick. We saw several houses that actually displayed the trade of its original owner, blacksmith, baker, carpenter...you get the idea.

All these houses are still occupied but with condition. It must be maintained kept in period condition and not altered to preserve the history. (City by-law)

Then, not so far away is a church, that is from the same era. Usually the corner stone has 'carved in stone' its date of build.

What's now a parking lot for the church one could visualize where horses and buggies were tied to hitching posts. Churchs back then were the basic of a community and the village civic centers.

I drove by an old frame church today that was fenced all around. Either it was part of a restoration or it's original but it was mint.

Judging by the front I could picture old rickety pine floors and a pot belly stove and stone rolled glass for its windows.

When the kids were about 7 and 10, we used to hit the cemetaries and see who could find the old dates. This would give the kids a sense of time and a strectch for the dog. Some toomb stones mentioned what the deceased did for a living. Here lies Porkie-Pine...the cable guy.

History surrounds us if we look for it. It's not limited to cars.

Through the years I bought several ghost town books. We'd read about towns or villages not far from here or while on our vacation and then chase them down. The pages just spewed history. Read about it first then go visit. WHAT AN EXPERIENCE...

[towtrucks]

YUP, we have the same small towns around here.

[danny]

when the children were little we would go to old towns and museums to get an idea of life in the old times-cheap entertainment and a learning lesson all in one.

[Beefy's Bronco]

I hear ya' Danny!
When I was in the 4th grade I used to ride my bike over the mountain to go to a museum that was full of revolutionary war stuff. Early colonial stuff too. I loved that place.

As an adult I clocked it with my big truck. It was 8 miles one way.

Speaking of which, while playing on the mountain one day, we came across a dozen or so small man made caves that were dug into the side of a hill. They were lined with rocks from the creek. I told my science teacher about this and he had us show it to him and another guy and they concluded that troops during the Revolutionary War had used them as winter quarters. Mom said that she and her brothers had found them also as children and played there.

[danny]

that's pretty cool that your mom knew about and played in some of the same places you did

[Wheel]

What state was that in?

[Beefy's Bronco]

North Eastern Pennsylvania, Wheel.
The area was rich with history.
Not far from home (West Wyoming) in Wyoming, PA is a monument for the Wyoming Massacre. That is another thing I learned about. The British and the Indians worked together to raid the area, killing men, women and children. 40 people escaped and built a Fort. The name of that Fort is Forty Fort and is now a town.

After reading this version of the Massacre (http://www.rootsweb.com/~paluzern/patk/wyoming.html) , it appears that my memory of the details may be less then accurate. They are close though.

[duffy]

Beefy, I didn't know you were a Pa. guy... I pass close to Wyoming on my way to Sullivan County, (Dushore) where my pool partner (Billy McT) has a "cabin". Mostly, we just go up there for the relaxation, hunting, and fishing. psssst.... (wispering) I've also been known to sit on the deck overlooking the Little Loyalsock Creek, and have a few beers...waiting for the fish to jump out of the creek, onto the shore, so I could cook dinner. I'll bet you've probably been to Eagles Mere, and ridden on the ice slide. I think proceeds go to the local volunteer fire dept. Eagles Mere Slide is a toboggan run built in 1904. Experience the thrill of riding a 1,200-foot-long channel of ice at 45 miles per hour. (I copied that from a website about Eagles Mere). OK, gotta plan my next outing to the mountains...

[Trader Ray]

To get it to the top for some of our newer members, there is good reading in it and I know I for one read every post when I joined the forum. If I have to add something, I will add this, I heard on the news the other day that a purse snatching case was thrown out of court because the parent of the snatcher over heard the girl and the boy talking about it on the phone ( both Juvinilles sp?) and the mother called the police to report it. Well the Judge ruled it was a violation to listen in on the phone call and threw it out of court.
On the other hand the commercials all say to "Get Involved" with your children and know what they are doing wherever they are. I think the ruling was crazy and it really makes one think what this world is coming to when you cant govern you own children. :mad:

[Beefy's Bronco]

Beefy, I didn't know you were a Pa. guy... I pass close to Wyoming on my way to Sullivan County, (Dushore) where my pool partner (Billy McT) has a "cabin". Mostly, we just go up there for the relaxation, hunting, and fishing. psssst.... (wispering) I've also been known to sit on the deck overlooking the Little Loyalsock Creek, and have a few beers...waiting for the fish to jump out of the creek, onto the shore, so I could cook dinner. I'll bet you've probably been to Eagles Mere, and ridden on the ice slide. I think proceeds go to the local volunteer fire dept. Eagles Mere Slide is a toboggan run built in 1904. Experience the thrill of riding a 1,200-foot-long channel of ice at 45 miles per hour. (I copied that from a website about Eagles Mere). OK, gotta plan my next outing to the mountains...


Heck yeah! And I miss NE PA so bad!

I was on vacation when you posted this, so I missed it. DOH!!

[Beefy's Bronco]

To get it to the top for some of our newer members, there is good reading in it and I know I for one read every post when I joined the forum. If I have to add something, I will add this, I heard on the news the other day that a purse snatching case was thrown out of court because the parent of the snatcher over heard the girl and the boy talking about it on the phone ( both Juvinilles sp?) and the mother called the police to report it. Well the Judge ruled it was a violation to listen in on the phone call and threw it out of court.
On the other hand the commercials all say to "Get Involved" with your children and know what they are doing wherever they are. I think the ruling was crazy and it really makes one think what this world is coming to when you cant govern you own children. :mad:


Govern? Is that what we call beating now? I just cant keep up with all of this PC stuff!

[Trader Ray]

That might be what you call beating, I am saying that as a parent of minor children it is the right and resposnability to know what our children are up to when the are not in our presence. Many states fine the parents of children that mearly skip school. In Arkansas it is or was $500.00 the first time it was a problem, then jail time could result if called for.

[Trader Ray]

Growing up in Michigan meant that there was always snow on the ground for Thanksgiving and it did not matter if it was a nice day before it or not, there would be snow on the ground Thanksgiving.
I also think that it was more or less the elders in my family anyways that kept the family together, with all of my Grandparents gone now, some of the holidays dont seem the same as they did, my Grandparents on my Mothers side always wrote me letters or cards and in front of my name it would say "Master" on the envelops all the time. Has anyone else ever experienced that?
My Grandfather on my Dads side once at a beech in Michigan ( I think it was Crest beach) buried the coals in the sand at the end of the table as we were leaving and him and my Dad and some of my Uncles were still talking as all of the kids loaded the car with the days supplies, ( we would go there at 6 am and eat everymeal there at the beach) and I went back to the table to talk and stood on those coals and burned my feet something bad. My Grandfather felt so bad he came over every day to tend to me and just spend time, I remember is so well because it was the year he passed on.
Sorry for the long post but this thread was one of my favorites and I usually am feeling sentamental when I post in it. :)

[vetteonr]

my Grandparents on my Mothers side always wrote me letters or cards and in front of my name it would say "Master" on the envelops all the time. Has anyone else ever experienced that?My Grandparents used to send Christmas and birthday cards to my kids addressed like that. I always thought that was kind of cool. :)

[Porcupine]

Me too. I remember that all too well. Glad my last name was not ....as in Bates Motel...schyco....