Kill Switch

[fotw]

how can I rig up a kill switch or button to start my car. I want to have this so that only I can drive it. I have asked the question in a way when I asked about the push button starter. For the same reason just a different way of going about it

[danny]

on a ford solenoid you just have to run a hot lead to the push button and a lead to the solenoid. you could put a hidden switch in line to prevent power to the push button.

[towtrucks]

In the past, I have seen vehicles that are "rigged" to start ONLY when the brake pedal is depressed, OR when the left or right turn signal is activated, OR when the headlights are on.
There are a number of ways to redirect the power to an ignition switch than using the ignition switch wiring harness.

You might also try using a horn button that requires you to push it to activate the ignition system. HIDE THE BUTTON.....

OR, route the "fire" to the distributor through a HIDDEN toggle switch.

[fotw]

danny can you idiot term that. I don't no much about the electrical work

[Trader Ray]

Just get a toggle switch and insert it to the "+" side of the coil wire, then put the switch anywere you like, get a good switch that will handle the current. That is a real good Idea you have considering that your car's ignition is on the dash. In the old days when that car you have was a lot newer the easy way to start one if you lost the keys was to just unplug the ignition from the back and plug in another, Ford trucks are the same way, some use a center screw to keep the connection in place. That is how we started a lot of cars at the junk yard. You could even put the switch in the trunk if you wanted.

[towtrucks]

my little ford friend.......
are you trying to keep some friend that has a spare key to your car from using it, or are you trying to prevent your car from being stolen????
You should know that it takes ONLY about 10 seconds to steal your car. Fords are the EASIEST cars to hot wire as it only takes a jumper wire and a screwdriver across the solenoid and the car is running, no matter if you have a hidden switch or not. Because your car does not have a locking steering wheel, it's gone in a matter of seconds.
To prevent theft of your car, think about locking your hood, having a removable steering wheel, or use a Denver boot.
Those silly alarms do nothing more than create a noise that nobody pays any attention to. And just because the alarm says it will kill the ignition system, IT CAN STILL BE STARTED !!!

[Trader Ray]

One way to cause trouble for a car thief would be to put a hidden switch on your head lights or tail lights. Most cars are stolen at night and if they steal yours and are driving with no lights the police are more apt to see the car and the thief is most likely to get out of it when they notice no lights are on. Just a thought.

[fotw]

keep frineds from driving it and keeping my family out of it. Is it really that easy?

[Trader Ray]

oh yea, your car can be started in less than a minute

[towtrucks]

Just to let you know, do this experiment ............
Take a wire, about 24 inches of 12 ga. wire. Place an alligator clip on each end. Now clip one end to the positive (+) side of the battery and clip the other end to the positive (+) side of the coil. Now take a heavy screwdriver and cross the solonoid from the battery side wire to the terminal. You may need to slide the wire back covering the terminal. 3 seconds to connect the wire, 5 seconds to spin the engine, 2 seconds to run around and get into the vehicle and your GONE!!!!!!!!

WARNING.........WARNING...........WARNING......... ..

MAKE DOUBLE DOG GONE SURE THE VEHICLE IS EITHER IN PARK OR NEUTRAL AS IT WILL START NO MATTER ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION SELECTION

[Trader Ray]

boy aint that the truth, I hot wired a truck once and if it were not for the spare tire being mounted on the front bumper, I would have lost my legs when it started up and hit a wall behind me, it was a manual trans.

[fotw]

ahh no forgot about the whell lock for the hell of it am gonna try that tommorow. What is a solonoid, where is it located

[fotw]

Hey I picked up the stuff today, but the wire is too big for the hole in the clip, should I sotter them together ?

[Trader Ray]

What is a solonoid, where is it located [/B][/QUOTE]
By all means you could connect them by sodering them and the sylinoid is the little black part that your battery connectes to and then another cable runs to your starter.

[fotw]

Now take a heavy screwdriver and cross the solonoid from the battery side wire to the terminal
Dose this mean to the terminal on the bat?

[danny]

go across the "s" terminal to where the battery cable connects to the solenoid-make contact to both the terminals at once to activate the starter

[Trader Ray]

If you are not that sure of yourself fotw, at least wear saftey glasses!! All that sparking and arcing next to the battey is dangerous. It only takes once to take out a eye, they ( the battery) can blow very easily. Take it from me, I have seen it many times. Wear Glasses.

[danny]

by all means use caution when sparking around a battery, as was said the battery can burst causing severe damage to yourself and/or others.

[thecarguy]

you dont have to just have a cut off on the ignition. You can easily put a switch in the line supplying power to your fuel pump, if electric.

[fotw]

Thanks for all the help, S 10 put it in idiot terms for me in an e mail. I know very little about the electrical working of a car. I guess I should learn about that next.

[Trader Ray]

The electronics is changing every new year as far as cars are concerned. Todays cars, the most basic ones at that, have more computer controled functions than the first space shuttles. Imagine that. There will be a time when you will know it all and be telling the next generation how it used to be. trust me!

[danny]

ditto, about the time you learn the rules they change the game. lol

[Dialed In]

Here's an idea to prevent the car from being driven away. Forget about all that electrical switch / solenoid junk. Go to www.americanboss.com and see about their neat sterring wheel hub. It installs between the steering shaft and the steering wheel. Its a hub that locks and unlocks. When you park the vehicle, you just unlock or disengage the hub, and the steering wheel free wheels and no one can drive the vehicle.

[Trader Ray]

That item looks great, I am going to check into it as far as price. Thanks for the alternative to the kill switch thoughts.

[thecarguy]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
The electronics is changing every new year as far as cars are concerned. Todays cars, the most basic ones at that, have more computer controled functions than the first space shuttles. Imagine that. There will be a time when you will know it all and be telling the next generation how it used to be. trust me!

I saw a show on discovery or somthing like that, and they said that the original nintendo game boy from the early 90's, was far supirior to that which was controlling the early space ships. But I also saw a segment on 60 minutes (wow, ive ben watching too much tv) that said that current video game systems prosess information better than most computers, and if they wanted, the systems that run the video games can controll weapons much better than conventional computers.



I have no clue if that made sense, im very gorggy and unable to get sleep.

[Trader Ray]

I seen where the game cube or the X box is in demand and that the military claims that in the wrong hands, could be very deadly. I think it was on one of those news shows, I can not believe how much news I watch anymore. I got to get out of the house and stop watching the world on tv. lol

[elbi_chorrea]

Actually I'm a huge gamer and have heard and read about those comments being made, it was thought that the russians were working on a rocket or something like that using the PS2 chip or proccessor as the base for the construction of it. But in the end it was all a big fat lie, I really doubt that it was true and it was confirm that it wasn't true.

[elbi_chorrea]

Originally posted by Dialed In
Here's an idea to prevent the car from being driven away. Forget about all that electrical switch / solenoid junk. Go to www.americanboss.com and see about their neat sterring wheel hub. It installs between the steering shaft and the steering wheel. Its a hub that locks and unlocks. When you park the vehicle, you just unlock or disengage the hub, and the steering wheel free wheels and no one can drive the vehicle.
Actually the autolock seems like a good anti-theft device too, it works great either in an automatic transmission car or a manual one, in works locking the brake on the automatic transmission cars therefore it can not be put into drive gear or reverse gear or any other gear, the car can be started but it cannot be moved. And in the manual transmission car it works locking the clutch pedal, that way the car can not be started at all. It seems like a good product.

[patgizz]

but you guys all know that if they really want the car, theyre gonna get it no matter what. so if you park it outside, and you are that paranoid, block it in with a daily beater. only takes a few seconds to back up to a car with a tow truck, hook it up, and be gone.

then again i dont tend to worry about the old cars. there isnt a huge market for 64 galaxie 4 door parts at chop shops, the ones you gotta watch out for are your newer cars. i'm a ton more careful with the lumina and the truck than i am with the camaro or the belair about anti theft devices, keeping the windows up at shows or track, locking them at events...

[towtrucks]

Originally posted by patgizz
only takes a few seconds to back up to a car with a tow truck, hook it up, and be gone.

WHAT??????????
SEZ WHO......

[patgizz]

sez the tow truck that took away my el camino when i junked it, or the tow truck driver that repo'd my uncle's truck. took them all of 30 seconds to back up to the elky with the bar, flip out the things behind the front wheels, strap the tires down, lift it up, and drive away

[twiggins]

My 1994 Toyota was stolen Friday, got it back on Sunday. What is the best anti theft device for Toyota, and 1997 Buick Park Avenue?

[fotw]

for a toyota talk to thecarguy

[thecarguy]

Thanks fotw.

Splice a switch into your ground wire for your fuel pump or EFI system (in your under hood fuse box there is one for the EFI system itself for the injectors and such, and another for the fuel pump, take your pick it dosent matter). All my friends with toyotas have done this and it works great. You can mount the switch anywhere and toyotas have lots of little areas to hide them.

No idea about that buick, but somthing similar will work just fine.

[Porcupine]

Originally posted by twiggins
What is the best anti theft device for Toyota, and 1997 Buick Park Avenue?

I'd say a good strong baseball bat hidden under the front seat, no matter how small you are. :)

[fotw]

that only helps when you are in it though :)

[KA9MOT]

Y'all brought this post back from the dead! LOL :D