Heated washer fluid

[vetteonr]

I went to the Detroit Auto Show this week and saw a demo on a new product that heats your windshield washer fluid as you use it. I thought it was a good idea, but a little pricey at $200. Has anyone else seen this or have an opinion on it? I know all you warm weather boys wouldn't need it so save all your basking in the sun bragging for another time. I am envious though.

[raceman6135]

I guess it would depend on just how warm the washer fluid became. It's not uncommon for even just the defroster blowing warm air on the windshield to crack cold glass here, so I'd be a little leary.

DJS

[rapideo]

sometimes my washer fluid freezes on the glass even though its not susposed to. does'nt hot water freeze faster than cold?
i know you'r not talking hot, just warm but it might make a difference

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by raceman6135
It's not uncommon for even just the defroster blowing warm air on the windshield to crack cold glass here

DJS

Dang, that is cold. I got a new crack in my windshield due to coldness the other day, but it was in a odd situation, it snowed here and then it went to 4 degrees the next day. I turned on the defrost of course and when I got in I heard a noise that I was sure was a gun shot. The windshield cracked across the bottom. It has only snowed 4 times since I lived in this State of Tennessee. That is 9 years.

[fotw]

LOL it has snowed 4 times in the last 2 weeks.

[Trader Ray]

fotw we had 7 inches of snow here. 3 times in 9 years

[vetteonr]

It's supposed to heat it up to about 120 degrees. That's a good point about windshield breakage, I should have grilled them on that point. And also, no, hot water does not freeze faster than cold. Most people think that because they use hot water in a zamboni. For all you non hockey fans, a zamboni is what they use to resurface the ice. It uses hot water to melt the surface of the ice to let it re-freeze smooth. Take it from Hockeytown, this is truth!

[Trader Ray]

I posed the question about the hot water freezing thing to a teacher once and she said that hot water freezes faster because the oxygen level is lower in hot water. She may have been reaching though.

[vetteonr]

That's funny, I asked a teacher type person years back and her response was that it had everything to do with temperature changing and how fast it can get to the freezing temp. All I know is when it gets below 32 degrees, it freezes. How fast? Who cares!

[Trader Ray]

yea, really. It freezes and that is fact.

[danny]

at 32 i think just about everything freezes, including myself. lol

[vetteonr]

I long for the day I can start the Hawiian corvette club!!

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by danny
at 32 i think just about everything freezes, including myself. lol

Oh, I see. You meant the 32 degree's. I thought to myself at first, dang, when I was 32 went nothing froze! lol

[vetteonr]

I know some women who went frigid at 32. Now that's a darn shame!

[Trader Ray]

me too, The Rolling Stones song " Your so Cold" should have been a theme song for them.

[vetteonr]

Not to mention "Freeze Frame" by J. Geils band.

[danny]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
Oh, I see. You meant the 32 degree's. I thought to myself at first, dang, when I was 32 went nothing froze! lol

no, when i was 32 my hardness had nothing to do with cold. lol and cool had a different meaning

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by vetteonr
Not to mention "Freeze Frame" by J. Geils band.

And I was always lying when I quoted Foreiners " feels like the first time" ha ha, it was more like Queen's "another one bites the dust"

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by danny
no, when i was 32 my hardness had nothing to do with cold. lol and cool had a different meaning

It is funny how the times change the same words to generation to the next.

[vetteonr]

Right on daddy-o!

[danny]

Originally posted by vetteonr
Right on daddy-o!

ahh, the old days---i mean i've never heard that before,lol

[vetteonr]

Groovy Danny, groovy!

[Trader Ray]

nothing works as it should. Last night I rubbed the rogain on my head and then took my viagra, I woke up this morning and my hair was standing straight up..lol joking of course

[vetteonr]

Those are two things you should never mix up again.

[thecarguy]

about the heated fluid.... couldent you use one of those stick on bottle warmers for NOS? Ive never wrked with one. How hot do they get, or how much heat is the bottle warmer capeable of giving off?

[danny]

i really don't think it is a good idea to use heated liquid on a cold/frozen windshield, brings back memories of a neighbor that thought hot water would de-ice the glass. made the glass company happy though.

[dohc82]

Originally posted by rapideo
sometimes my washer fluid freezes on the glass even though its not susposed to. does'nt hot water freeze faster than cold?
i know you'r not talking hot, just warm but it might make a difference

Winter washer fluid has ammonia in it. This allows it evaporate even though the temp is below the freezing point of water -32F/0C. Ammonia is liquid at this temperature. At - 20C(-15F) it doesnt work so well.

[danny]

well at -20 i'm staying in the house. i don't have anything i want frozen off. lol

[vetteonr]

You still have to prove global warming to me. Doggone it's been cold here. BBBRRRRRRRRRR

[Trader Ray]

I hope it warms up to at least 20 by the end of Febuary there in Detroit!

[danny]

warms up to at least 20? i guess you can get used to the cold but i have no intention of doing it.

[Trader Ray]

Yea, the cold is actually when I feel my healthiest. The heat is the worst on me, I can get out in the cold days and stay out all day. Worked many 8-10 hour days outside all day and temp never gets above 20-25 degrees. I worked some places in Michigan off the river that never did have running water or heat. Dont ask about the mens room. lol

[danny]

what about the men's room? i like the hot temps, i work outside all year long and really the cold doesn't bother me that much unlike the sniveling workers that i hire. things like "i can't feel my fingers or my hand is stuck on my zipper or" wait a minute you don't want to hear that. lol

[chevyguy1]

i had a job onetime as a concrete laborer. our company won a bid with the city of chicago. the job was part of the lake front (lake michigan) cleanup project. mayor daley in his infinite wisdom decided he wanted concrete walls down the entire lake shore, with the exception of the beaches). we thought this was great we would get to work down at the lake all summer. then we found out the catch, the job didn't start until november 30th!!!
you want to talk about cold? i'm talking 0-5 degree weather and then mix in 50-60 mile an hour winds and 4 foot waves while trying to build water baracades so we could make our concrete forms to pour the walls. and the best part is the concrete was crap bcuz of the additive they used so they could pour it in the cold weather. they poured new walls this summer. lol alk about a waste of money. he ended up shutting the lake front down to the tourists anyway!!!

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by danny
what about the men's room? i like the hot temps, i work outside all year long and really the cold doesn't bother me that much unlike the sniveling workers that i hire. things like "i can't feel my fingers or my hand is stuck on my zipper or" wait a minute you don't want to hear that. lol

There was no water in the mens room, a gallon of water stood no chance of even going down the broken plumbing. Lets just say that hub caps were very cheap there if you get my drift. Talk about a crappy deal.

[danny]

sometimes we rent the portable toilets on larger projects, last year the development i was on had one that froze and the bottom cracked(i suspect foul play) well let's just say that the crap was everywhere-we were on strike for some time.lol

[Trader Ray]

The key word in Danny's post was "foul" lol

[danny]

it was both-lol

[vetteonr]

Don't worry s10, knowing Michigan's weather, It'll probably be in the 60's in February, then drop back down to the 20's for March. lol

[Trader Ray]

At 500 miles away we had 64 on Tuesday, then it snowed last night and is icey today. At any rate, I will be there! It is getting close. It appears that another member may show up from Chicago. His screen name is chevyguy 1

[vetteonr]

Great, the more the merrier!

[beatlebill]

I posed the question about the hot water freezing thing to a teacher once and she said that hot water freezes faster because the oxygen level is lower in hot water. She may have been reaching though.

Okay, so she was partially right. Water without oxygen in it does indeed freeze faster. One way of removing the oxygen is to boil it. But very hot water will not freeze faster than room temperature water.
The catch to this experiment is that the boiled water then has to be cooled to the temperature of the non-boiled water you are comparing it to in order to test the difference in freezing speed.

[popgodaweazl]

I saw on the local news in Des Moines Iowa a company installing them here . We had wicked ice storms recently and the people that had them were interviewed and they do work. every one was pulling over and scraping the ice off the windshields except for the ones with the heater. I believe they said it heats your ww solvent to 65 degrees not 120. I think this shop is selling them
http://www.icetruckworks.com/