Monster Garage

[thecarguy]

this will be the offical thread concerning monster garage.

[rapideo]

its on tonight, discovery channel 7:00pm central

[BigBry]

I've seen it once. It was alright, but I think I may have just seen a bad episdoe because I wasn't really into it. Some other friends of mine like the show so I need to see another one.

[rapideo]

that was a action packed show with a suprise ending

[danny]

darn, i missed it. i think tonight was the grim reaper.

[Trader Ray]

I hear I am a few behid, somehing of a pt cuizer and a wheel stander van or something. I will set up the vcr for all recordings and I even got it tonight. This is a great show.

[Trader Ray]

Yes, it was the grimm ripper. They were so close! I would like to have seen it rip up a Ford. lol

[BigBry]

Only one I saw was the deliver truck where they had the different types of catapults and air cannons in the truck.

The ending was very hokey, but I enjoyed the effort. I assume some of the other shows have been better judging by the talk.

[Trader Ray]

apparently I have missed more than the few I thought, as I dont recall that one either. But then there is times that I have rented the same movie more than once and the bad thing is I usually get one I did not like in the first place..lol

[thecarguy]

next weeks episode is the limo to fire truck....again.

[fotw]

that was a good on, BTW what could have have done to stop burnin up those belts, just move the pullies?

[danny]

i liked the air boat beetle, i did see a rerun of the porshe golf ball retriever-lol-it shot the golf balls back at the golfers

[fotw]

saw that one the other day, the Ultimate Revenge for that poor fool drivn the ball picher

[danny]

oh yeah, jessie had those golfers running for cover

[Trader Ray]

I will be looking in a second, but does the show have a web site? or is it just the discovery site? I would like to at least have a idea of the shows I missed. Oh and fotw, I think that the old tired pumps may have had something to the belt problem, they may have been over worked with all the power demanded of them. I am no hydraulic expert though.

[fotw]

thanks jessie is a real hard @ss when it come to working on those cars. He dose not let them get away with to much huh.

[danny]

he likes to let everyone know who's the boss. he does afterall create some of the finest bikes in the world.

[Trader Ray]

You got that right.

[danny]

i like the way he doesn't get too heated up when making a point.

[fotw]

Yeah and like one of the other dude on the last show, he said something bout how jessie is set for life money wise and he is still in there bleeding and sweating with the others. I personaly dont like bikes, my brother was killed riding one in 96 so I dont know anything about them.

[danny]

sorry to hear about your bro, when you ride you have to be extra careful, especially these days.

[fotw]

yeah he had been riding for a few year but it was rainy. come to think about it my family never told me much about it. I would have like to have known, and still would. He and I were a great deal apart in age he was 15 years older then me. Sad to be left a wide and a daughter behind.

[danny]

it must have been rough for them also. i feel saddest for the daughter as she won't have daddy there for her. my sincere condolences to all.

[fotw]

she has a step father a half sister and 3 step bros but this is 7 years later. It was ruff on everyone at first becuase it was so unexpected. It is hard to think of it this way but if someone is sick for a long time you have a chance to prepair for the worse. With his it was just so unexpected that it was shockin. Me and my neice is only 3 1/2 years a part in age.

[thecarguy]

yep, bikes are very dangerous. My grandpa used to collect and still has a few indians but they are in bad shape in a storage container somewhere in downtown LA.

He once sold a bike to a man who ended up crashing and getting pretty well messed up a few blocks away. A friend of mine was riding his bike at night and was hit by a drunk who ran a red light. he ended up breaking both femurs, his wrists, and collarbone. He also needed re-constructive surgery on both knees, ankles, and his left elbow. The worst part is the guy that hit him had no insurence, it was a stolen car, and an illegal immagrant so he just go deported.

I have a broken wrist right now from my bike. I over shot a 60 foot kicker by about 10 feet. It was a 3rd gear jump and i wan in 5th.

[danny]

that is why the saying watch the other guy was invented. can't be too careful especially when everybody that hits a bike says "i didn't see him" and then complain when they hear a harley with no muffler. it's a no win situation

[JDAZE]

Every time I really get serious about buying a bike. I hear stories like the one above. I still hav'ent bought one yet. I think someone is trying to tell me something. Sorry for your the loss of your brother.

Joey

[Trader Ray]

Yes, I am very sorry as well for your loss fotw. The best bike is a loud one as you hear it coming atleast. People that smoke and throw out their butts tend to not realize that the sparks land on the guy on the bike behind them. And even a casual lane change can be deadly on a bike. I have never felt so free when I rode my first bike, but they do take a very alert person to be just 50% safe on one.

[danny]

but the freedom you feel on a bike is like no other.

[thecarguy]

yes, its that time again. Monster Garage will be on in 10 minutes for us west coasters. Im not going to watch as the x-games are on and its a re-run. The fire truck to limo project.

[Trader Ray]

Yea, I taped it and now see that I have seen it twice.

[thecarguy]

tonight is the pontoon boat again. grrrrrrrrrr, i hate re-runs.

[fotw]

never saw that one befor tonight, what is next weeks? I did not think that pullie would hold up

[Trader Ray]

I sure hope it is one I have not seen, I set the vcr every Monday night and just need to rewind when I get home, there are a few I missed and maybe I will get to see them soon. I should not have taped over and I would have the libary on the entire show now..lol

[fotw]

i just checked tonights is swamp buggy, they change a VW bug into an air boat. Sounds interesting

[danny]

swamp buggy episode was good, i like how the fan came out the back of the bug.

[fotw]

It was rigged. No way that VW beat the other boat. Did you see hwo fat he was going at the start. No way.....

[Trader Ray]

A show I did not see. Thank goodness for the VCR!

[thecarguy]

dang my hobbies. off roading sunday, camping sunday night in the seirra nevada mountians, snowboarding sunday. I got home at 7pm monday, ploped down on the couch and woke up at 6am late for school. AND THE BUG IS ONE IVE WANTED TO SEE! geeeze.

[Trader Ray]

it was the closest challenge yet!

[sy2173]

I've missed the Bettle one 2 other times and it was worth the wait.. Even though I new what almost happened from watching the PontoonBus one.
In the Pontoon show he mentions that the front of the bettle almost sunk and that's why he put so much time into putting a Foam fillled box on the front of the Bus..
I thought the Bettle one was pretty cool. Lot's of cutting with the plasma torch... :)

[Trader Ray]

Next weeks show is a Mini Cooper turned snowmobile, any one have a lead on this?

[danny]

haven't heard that, about the shows being rigged--of course they're rigged jessie probably would die an agonizing death if he lost-lol the show's premise is to show what can be done with a wild imagination and a handfull of people.

[Trader Ray]

Well, they got that down so good

[fotw]

for a little bit there I thought that bud would turn into a sub

[Trader Ray]

Looks like a snow job lol

[rapideo]

a stock mini w/studded tires coulda won that race!

[thecarguy]

I think that even if the mini had studded tires, and all wheel drive, and a bigger engine it would have still lost. Well if someone a bit more daring and younger was on the sled. Snowmobiles use the same basic engines as dirt bikes and motorcycles. Ever notice how street bikes are so fast? they are small (less weight), and can rev very high, arround 9k. I can get my stock honda CR250 to 80 mph faster than most cars, modded or not.

[carsandcycles]

The Snowmobile was holding back. The whole race sequence was run slow and the video speeded up in my opinion. (And I think Richard Petty could ride that Snowmobile as good as most and better than many.) I did however think that these modifications were some of the most interesting and best engineered. The "freebies" got alittle out of hand this time though. Those engines and tracks were thousands of dollars worth of hardware. I think it was one of the more interesting shows.

[thecarguy]

but with out the FREEBIESIBIESIBIES they would need a larger budget. Especially on the eppisode with the nut shaker. That one guy on last nights show was a character (the guy who made the ski/place/car thing, smart man too).

[Trader Ray]

It was a very interesting show. I enjoyed the fact it was a new one, for me anyways.

[danny]

even a slow snowmobile can drastically beat any car in the snow, the car even rigged similiarly to the snowmobile has no chance-much like the comparison of motorcycle and car, the motorcycle will always beat the car from light to light(and around corners)

[fotw]

sigh* repeat

[Trader Ray]

next week will be new though fotw

[thecarguy]

ARRRRRRR!!!!!! I missed the hot air baloon again.

[fotw]

what is next weeks??

[thecarguy]

mondays show was a suburban to a wedding chappel. this coming monday will be the mustang lawnmower again. The wedding chappel one was filled with pompus people and their egos. Somthing about the show that irks me is the fact that many of the people find it nessecary to not wear eye protection while welding or cutting with plasmas or torches.

[fotw]

My father is a welder, and every now and then *(Friday) he dose not get the helmet down in time and gets welding flash, makes his eys all bloodshot and red. I would like to see what those guys look like after a week of now wearing anything

[danny]

i watched some welding by accident once and while trying to sleep that night i was repeatedly going to the sink and washing out my eyes-they felt like i had sand in them-very painful

[thecarguy]

I know a guy in his early 40's that dosent always use eye protection. he now sees shadows. not good at that young of an age.

[Trader Ray]

Eyes are to be protected at all times, I am on a saftey committy at work and the eye injuries alone are about 40% of the injury problem. I were saftey glasses even when I change oil. You never know when the wind will change or just anything could cause a lifetime of regret..

[thecarguy]

Oh geeze. A few drops of oil can cover a football feild with a gust of wind.

[thecarguy]

MONDAY IS A NEW SHOW!!!!!!!!!

RX-7 into a sand rail. This will be great. Im also looking forward to the rock crawler episode to some.

[thecarguy]

Apparently the Baja Shop ( very reputible off road racing shop here in so cal) has been accepted to be on an eppisode of monster garage. The FX network has already started filming episodes of a show called driveshaft that is very similar to monster garage but more off road oriented. Rumors are that the baja shop gang is on the FX show as hosts, kinda like jesses job.

[danny]

that should make a good show, i hope they will be informative with a lot of hands on and details about how things work and why

[thecarguy]

Heres why the sand rail did not work:

sand rails use a mid engine design (engine in the back). They usually use a transaxle and independant rear suspension. Some use a conventional tranny hooked right to a diff, but both have a mid engine design. They use paddles because they work much better than tires in sand. The tires on the rx7 were not paddles, similar to paddles but not the same thing. With the engine in the rear all the weight is on the rear tires which is a big aid in traction. The rx7 did not have a mid engine. Another down side is the engine upgrades. It was wasted money. You dont want to spin the tires fast. You want them to spin very slowly and accelerate very slowly. With the No2 you can controll the power gain so that dosent really count but it was wasted money. Getting the injectors bored out was also a waste, the stock engine would do just fine (I wouldent know where to find the injectors on a rotary anyways).

[Trader Ray]

It was a spectacular ending though. The car was completed in time, is it a rule that it wins the competition? They did not get the tools?

[thecarguy]

Well yes, they built it, but did it work? I think thats why they dont get tools.

[Trader Ray]

They followed the instructions laid out by Jessie, eventually. And it did work, just not good enough to win, but the fabrications did work as it was laid out. With some more testing and time to readjust that thing could have been a rocket. But at the same time it is just a TV show and if all the projects won every event, viewers would drop off and so a few shows like that is nessasary to keep us tuning in, it worked for me as I will be watching Monday.

[82_camaro_owner]

jesse will be here in MB during bike week, i know whos autograph ill be getting

[danny]

that machine gun worked just fine

[Trader Ray]

The machine gun was awsome to watch, I have rewound and rewatched it several times.

[danny]

the end result of seeing that swiss cheese car was awesome

[thecarguy]

Its fun to destroy projects that go bad. A buddy of mine gave up on a f-150 he was building. We trailered it out to the desert and blew it up. It was a major pain in the *** to get all the VIN's off of it tho.

[thecarguy]

guess what. rerun again. at least there is some bike rally on at 9 and american choppers has become a series now that is on at 10pm. discovery channel is staring to get pretty cool.

[Trader Ray]

Yea, who would have thunk it lol

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by thecarguy
Apparently the Baja Shop ( very reputible off road racing shop here in so cal) has been accepted to be on an eppisode of monster garage. The FX network has already started filming episodes of a show called driveshaft that is very similar to monster garage but more off road oriented. Rumors are that the baja shop gang is on the FX show as hosts, kinda like jesses job.

Any idea when this show will start airing? It sounds intersting.

[thecarguy]

no clue

[Trader Ray]

The Bronco Rock Crawler was a great show! I will watch it again once or twice. What about that show monster house, the first one was awsome!

[fotw]

ya and last weeks monser garage was a drag hot dog cart. Man that was nice

[Trader Ray]

I thought of a few members here when they took the valve covers off and said that a Chevy motor that never had the oil changed would not look that dirty inside..lol And then the new saying about the initials F O R D = Found On Rock Dead I know I will get a comment on this from a few of the known die hard Ford fans!

[Wheel]

A lot of people say dumb things when they get on TV. When does it come on again? I missed it.

[thecarguy]

They should do away with the freebies. While it was entertaining it was kinda pointless to build somthing on a budget but get all of the esential parts for free. We used to run those exact seats and they are about $500 each. The shocks by them selves would have blown the budget. The shocks (king 16" 2.5 dual rate coilovers) are about $800 each.

If it were my show I could have built it on that budget with no freebies. I would have cut the stock spring pertches out and move them closer together for the lift, making the arch of the springs very sharp. I wouldent put any shocks. I would have cut up the body as they did. Find a decent junk yard engine for around $1k. For wheels Id go with the cheap pep boys special in a 16x8 for $36 each ($1,144 total). For tires I would have gone with the BFG mud terrains in a 35x13.5 $135 ($1,684). I would put epoxy ,$5 ($1,689), between the rim and tire on the bead and then use some screws and bolts, $5? ($1694), right through the rim instead of the bead lock hoop. Of course it would have the cage. For the remaining $1300 I would but a locker for front and rear diffs and gears for the rear.

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by Wheel
A lot of people say dumb things when they get on TV. When does it come on again? I missed it.

It comes on again Saturday night. They took a tally of all the freebies and it came to over 29K and it still broke and needed a thermostat and even then the new hose leaked. Fix or repair daily at its finest...LOL

[thecarguy]

I watched a tape my friend made of the show and noticed somthing. The welds used on the heim joints for the axle links were of poor quality. But I think the reason the lower link did break off is because they used grade 8 heims and bolts instead of somthing higher. I would have gone with at least a 10.

[fotw]

Originally posted by thecarguy
They should do away with the freebies.

I can see what you mean but there is no way they could build what they do with that little money. I think they said they got 29K in freebies. Oh course nothing in free becuase the doners names are said many times so they get free ad.

Tim how much would a project like that coat to do rgith withoutt a budget?

[thecarguy]

To be honest I have no clue. I can guess about $50-70K. I dont know much about the sport of crawling. That is basically a professional rig tho. The only difference would be a fiberglass body, better motor, winches, radios, lots of fancy gauges, cage build of cromo instead of mild steel (thats what it looked like they used), and a few other things. But like I said, I dont know much about crawling.

FYI...when they taped that show those tires wernt avalible to the public, but they are now (have been for a while) and the smallest size is a 38x13.5 and the largest being a 48.5x16.5 and the 38's are $297 each, I cant imagine the cost of the 48's. They are made of kevlar and polyester and are not DOT approved.

[Trader Ray]

Your knowledge of the off road is great. I speak of two places because your writing in this thread of Monster Garage could also be in the 4X4 Members thread as well. You bring some great advice and have some true hands on knowledge about 4 wheeling and what it takes to make your own vehicle. Great post on this subject of the Monster Garage. I should probally post this in 4X4 Members thread but even if one is for a Ford or not, that was one awsome machine and would be a blast to have. I just would need one of those helmets, I would surely roll it and not on purpose..LOL

[Simon Stern]

Sad point on the show is definitely now the freebies.

If you watch the pilot episode (ford mustang lawnmower), the only real freebie they got was of course, the rims.

Unfortunately, they are really stretching for things to build.


That hotdog cart episode was basically a big, giant commercial for JEGS and West Coast Choppers apparel (which, sad to say, you can now buy at the mall at Hot Topic.....now every ******* on earth will be wearing it, not just gearheads).

[thecarguy]

Yes, hot topic sucks. I have purchased all of my WWC apparel throught the WWC website. Everyone sports the gear now.

[thecarguy]

Well guys, driveshaft will premire on june 29th at 2pm (pacific time) on FX. Enjoy!

[fotw]

what is driveshaft?

[thecarguy]

Your typical junk yard wars/monster garage fabrication show where you race at the end. This one however is mostly about off roading.

[fotw]

sounds nice

[KA9MOT]

After watching the Bronco one I am left wanting more. What a waste. They took a nice truck, put 30 plus thousand dollars in it and the allowed a maniac to drive it and tear it up. I want the left over parts, dang-it!!!

[thecarguy]

Ive driven by the warehouse where it is filmed and there is a fenced in area in the back where old stuff is kept Just out in the open. Its got some security tho. Im thinking if they store this bronco back there im getting me some new shocks.

[KA9MOT]

Cool Get me that atlas transfer case. Did they even use any skid plates? I can't figure how in the world they busted the tranny. Jessie really should not have been the one driving it. He thinks a line is something on a mirror that you snort. LOL :D

[thecarguy]

I dont think the tranny broke. Hey beefy, how much does an atlas case go for anyways?

[KA9MOT]

I think around 5 grand. I'll check

[Odawg]

I just was wondering if anyone else had this same thought.

Does it seem that that show had one of the easiest projects to date? I think they spent more time decorating than building.

Now I don't want to get into if I'm a chauvinist or not. In my own defense, there was one woman that I worked with who was most excellent with the torch. And taught me a lot about MIG welding.

It just seems that the show's producers stacked the deck in the teams favor.

[fotw]

ya they really had nothing to do to this, I mean half the stuff they put on it for cut off

[Trader Ray]

They got the tools after only hitting a small 1800 LB. car in the parking lot. They never needed to touch the caddy to do what they did to that little car. And did they spend any cash? or was it all freebies again?

[danny]

i don't think there has been one project they've taken on that would cost only 3k, i watch the show for the end product and don't take too seriously the $$ spent.

[Trader Ray]

I do the same, I like to see what they come up with and not worry about money spent. The whole budget thing is really not a issue on the show as most of the vehicles alone are worth far more than the 3 grand to start with. Heck the Olds that they ran over with the Bronco sells for at least 2 grand..lol

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
I do the same, I like to see what they come up with and not worry about money spent. The whole budget thing is really not a issue on the show as most of the vehicles alone are worth far more than the 3 grand to start with. Heck the Olds that they ran over with the Bronco sells for at least 2 grand..lol

Dang it!!! I am glad I don't live where you do. We just bought an 85 Olds Delta 88 with power everything for 50 Bucks and I drove it home.

I thought this last one was really generic. We have built demo cars for around 500 bucks and did much better then they did. The girls got the tools before they got the thing running properly.
Jessie is slipping. LOL

[Wheel]

I though it was a shame to do that to a 1965 Cadillac. That was too nice of a car to put in a Demo Derby. I've always though that a demo derby was a waste of good American Autos. And something that old, that wasn't the way a car like that should have ended. I'm a Ford Man, but I would have loved to own that car. It looked like it was in good shape before that started on it. It would have been a nice go to church car. Plus with the fancy wheels and paint, that is gonna make all the other drivers to want to hit it as much as they can. Go out there in something fixed up like that, and you wont have a chance.

[fotw]

NO! They butchered another classic. I have not seen all of it yet, but from what I can tell seems like an easy build again. Basicly a lowerider 70 Ranchero. Seems like that are on a Ford kick, mush have come to there sences. :)

[Wheel]

I saw the show and yes, they ruined another good ol American auto. I would loved to have that Ranchero. It looked like it was in pretty good shape too. Plus I don't get the deal of someone wanting a car that will jump up and down. I guess it's one of the many goofy things they have on the left coast. I've never seen one in good ol Virginia. Plus they have screwed up gun laws but that is getting away from the subject. Then after they ruined the classic Ford, they broke an A arm jumping it up and down and a tractor drug it away. What a shame to do that to a car that many folks would love to own. You don't see many Rancheros around here.

[thecarguy]

thats nothing. What about the brand new toyota 4wd limited tundra? shoot, im gonna buy a tundra in the next few weeks and the one they tore up is a $33K truck. The could have easily gotten a used one.

[fotw]

i missed that show. What did they have to make?

[thecarguy]

The side opened like a gull wing and out popped a platform to launch and park a motorcycle.

[danny]

Originally posted by fotw
NO! They butchered another classic. I have not seen all of it yet, but from what I can tell seems like an easy build again. Basicly a lowerider 70 Ranchero. Seems like that are on a Ford kick, mush have come to there sences. :)

not really-lol-, fords must be cheap there

[thecarguy]

Oh yeah. to many fords. There are a lot of fords out here which is good for ford, but not for the people who need fast, reliable transportation!!!!

[Wheel]

Originally posted by thecarguy
Oh yeah. to many fords. There are a lot of fords out here which is good for ford, but not for the people who need fast, reliable transportation!!!!
Not to get into the Ford/chevy thing again...But....I very seldom go over the speed limit anymore now that I'm older and wiser and tickets make your insurance go up (hate insurance companys). Anyway, there have been a few times when I'm just taking it easy, driving my Ford Truck down the road and when I pass a chevy (mostly trucks) for some reason they have to punch it just to pass me back or mybe they just want to take another look of what a real Truck looks like. It's kind of funny. When you drive the best, you don't have to try to impress.
Back to the subject. Who cares if they ruin a new auto, they aren't hard to find but a classic auto over 30 years old....no matter the brand name, that is uncalled for.

[Trader Ray]

That is a good point! I hate to see the old cars get hacked up. It was a senceless show this time. I could see the Bronco being made into the rockcrawler because that seems to be the current trend with 4X4s, I like muddin trails myself. To each their own though.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by Wheel
Anyway, there have been a few times when I'm just taking it easy, driving my Ford Truck down the road and when I pass a chevy (mostly trucks) for some reason they have to punch it

I've noticed that. Hmmmmmm.
I bet they refrain from that sort of behavior when they are next to a Lightning.

[Trader Ray]

I try to not let a ford in front for fear of having to push start them at the next sign or worse yet. FORD = Fuel..Oil..Rearend..Drips. Lol

[Wheel]

Instead of that classic Ranchero they ruined, they should have used a little Ranger, S10, or toyota. There is plenty of them around and wouldn't cost but so much, they are lite weight and would bounce up and down just fine and most of all, we would still have one more 1970 Ranchero in the world for someone to enjoy. Such a waste

[thecarguy]

One more person to enjoy a ranchero? The only person enjoying it is the guy making it into a coffee table.

Anyone take a look at the new silverado SS? Its a pretty quick truck. I havent driven a lightning so I cant compare but $40K (the silverado) is a bit much for a truck IMO. Its got the same 6.0 as the escalade and denalli's but I think its quicker as it has much less weight. And it has 20's which I think was a waste of money on GM's part because everyone who wants a 20" rim wants somthing custom that no one else will have.

[Wheel]

Originally posted by thecarguy
One more person to enjoy a ranchero? The only person enjoying it is the guy making it into a coffee table.


I use to have a Ranchero with a 429 in it. I blew the doors off many a chevy with that Ford.

[thecarguy]

wasnt the 429 a hemi engine? If not what CI was the ford hemi and what did it come in? Im positive I heard there was a frod hemi.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
One more person to enjoy a ranchero? The only person enjoying it is the guy making it into a coffee table.

Anyone take a look at the new silverado SS? Its a pretty quick truck. I havent driven a lightning so I cant compare but $40K (the silverado) is a bit much for a truck IMO. Its got the same 6.0 as the escalade and denalli's but I think its quicker as it has much less weight. And it has 20's which I think was a waste of money on GM's part because everyone who wants a 20" rim wants somthing custom that no one else will have.

20's on a truck? Congratulations Chebby. Since 1973 you have been trying to turn a pick-up into a car. You've finally succeeded. A whole lot of gimmicks, not a whole lot of truck.

This must be the reason Mr. Ford sells more trucks then Chevy and GMC Combined.

I think the lightning cost right about the same. The Lightning is one of the fastest production vehicles ever built, and is the fastest truck ever built. And it can still haul lumber if you really had to.
That Silverado SS will never touch it.

[thecarguy]

But dont the lightning and harley davidson f-1's have blowers?

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
But dont the lightning and harley davidson f-1's have blowers?

What's your point?
My point is Chebby cant touch Ford (gas or diesel) for performance or sales, and the jury is still out on the dependability issue.

If Chebby can't get their act together then they should be behind Ford. Where they belong I might add.

Do the HD F-150s have blowers? I don't know much about that version.

Truth be told, I think all the new trucks foreign or domestic are junk. Cars also. Yuck!!!

[thecarguy]

Well, I think any truck but toyota is crap. and thats cheating as far as ford being the fastest factory truck. same with dodge and their viper motor. Toyota could just as eaisly put their TRD blowers on the tundra and claim its the fastest, same with chevy and a 8.1 or a 6.0 and a blower. I look at it as low sales of the regular cab, so they bolt on a blower and package it as somthing completly differet.

Either way, I see no point in a high preformance truck unless its off roading. If you want speed and handling get a car. Any truck that isnt lifted (even if its not taken off road) or stock is b@$t@rdized IMO.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
Toyota could just as eaisly put their TRD blowers on the tundra and claim its the fastest, same with chevy and a 8.1 or a 6.0 and a blower.


But they haven't. Consequently they are LOSERS LOL :D
Just telling it like it is.

As a postscript I used to own a Toyota truck. I liked it. Allot. Problem was my friends would lean on it and cave the sheet metal in.

[thecarguy]

Thats your fault for not getting some nice suspension and fiberglass panels!!!

Come to think of it, I dont own anything with sheetmetal fenders...Im cool!

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
Thats your fault for not getting some nice suspension and fiberglass panels!!!

Come to think of it, I dont own anything my daddy didn't pay for

LOL :D

[thecarguy]

Hey now! LOL

seriously tho, the only hand out I ever took was a shop and tools from my grandpa. Everything else I fund on my own.

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by thecarguy
wasnt the 429 a hemi engine? If not what CI was the ford hemi and what did it come in? Im positive I heard there was a frod hemi.

Ford 429 shotgun hemi. Real strange looking valve covers. They ran em in Nascar about 1969.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by TNcarguy
Ford 429 shotgun hemi. Real strange looking valve covers. They ran em in Nascar about 1969.

That was the Boss 429. They named they Boss 429 Mustang for it as well. There was also the 429 Cobra Jet, Super Cobra Jet and just a 429.
And they were used in NASCAR.

And as TNCarguy stated they were also know as the shotgun hemi.

They were produced in 1969 and 1970.

I am currently looking for the factory Horsepower ratings.

[KA9MOT]

More info on the Boss 429 can be found at: http://www.sd455.com/mustangeng.htm

[TNcarguy]

Beefy,
Was the shotgun hemi the same engine as the Boss 429? I was thinking they were different, but I'm not sure.

BTW, I found a hp spec - 375 hp, 410 ft lb torque. Awesome engine. I always loved the way those things looked. Massive heads.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=640

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
More info on the Boss 429 can be found at: http://www.sd455.com/mustangeng.htm

Yep, that's the 429 shotgun hemi I was thinking of. I stand corrected. It is the same as a Boss 429.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by TNcarguy
Beefy,
Was the shotgun hemi the same engine as the Boss 429? I was thinking they were different, but I'm not sure.

BTW, I found a hp spec - 375 hp, 410 ft lb torque. Awesome engine. I always loved the way those things looked. Massive heads.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=640

I was just doing some research on the subject. My uncle had one when I was a kid and the car was awesome.

I believe the race versions were called the shotgun and the street version was called The Boss. While it was the same block and heads the race engines were very different from the street engines. I guess that is to be expected.

By the way (I just learned this myself) The engine wasn't a true Hemi. It had a semi hemispherical head.

Learn something new everyday.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by TNcarguy
Yep, that's the 429 shotgun hemi I was thinking of. I stand corrected. It is the same as a Boss 429.

Ummm..... I wasn't trying to correct anybody. You were correct. I just added to your post.
And did a Google search to refresh my memory. By the way, that same Uncle I was talking about traded his Boss 429 'Stang for a 63 Corvette. 2 weeks later his new bride, Aunt Susie, rear ended a dump truck. I cant remember what engine that Vette had but it was scary fast.

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
Ummm..... I wasn't trying to correct anybody. You were correct. I just added to your post.


I was thinking the Boss 429 wasn't a hemi, and it had the same heads and valve covers as the 427. After seeing the web site you posted, I realize that wasn't right.
I wasn't offended at all by your comments, just discussing the engine and trying to work around this CRS syndrome. :D

[KA9MOT]

CRS Syndrome? I can't remember what that is. LOL :D

[danny]

ford built a semi-hemi?

[TNcarguy]

Originally posted by danny
ford built a semi-hemi?
Yeah, in 69-70 they built a hemi race engine to compete against the Chrysler hemis in Nascar. To be legal for Nascar, they had to produce about 500 of the street version of the motor. Boss 429

[Wheel]

I think they are gonna do something with a vette tonight.

[Wheel]

Well, did yall see the four wheel drive vette? Again, it was a shame to see them do that to a classic but, it did look pretty cool.

[thecarguy]

yeah, but there are lots out there. If you really wanted to get one the chances are pretty good you could. Its not like the cars they are using are rare or collectors items.

[Trader Ray]

Living in Detroit I have seen my share of road worthy conversions. I have seen Corvettes and one of my favorite's was a Gremlin that cruised the streets for years. I really liked that one. Speaking of the show, I think it was the best one yet, second is the rockcrawling bronco, imo

[fotw]

Well ...... It seems that not to many other people like the idea of all those freebies eiter. For those that missed the new show there are new rules. Still needd to look stock but now they get a bigger budget, 5k now. And here is the catch they only get one freebe. I know that that will make the show more enjoyable for many of you out there.

Looks like this thread still has a reason to stay alive.

[thecarguy]

Jesse James will be driving in the baja 1000 this year. Along wiht several people like robby gordon, brenden gauhn, and jimmy johnson getting back to their roots and racing the 1K this year along with jesse james hopefully there will be some more coverage of the race.

I missed monster garage again. Since school started I dont think I have stayed up past 8:30 more than a hand full of times.

[fotw]

Well I like that one. Under budget, and well befor the deadline, so was it to easy for them? Next week the redo if the hurst, cant wait.

Carguy did they do the Toyota justice??

[thecarguy]

I missed it. What happened?

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
I missed it. What happened?

I don't watch it anymore.

[fotw]

The put a small motorcycle into a new toyato ext cap. then had a stunt man drive it off a platform while the truck was driving (slow)

[thecarguy]

Oh yeah. I saw that, rerun! I think it was a pretty lame project. I Think I only watched that one because I was working at toyota at the time.

[fotw]

next week is a new one. it is the group that tryed the hurst and failed. They are bringin them back and havein them work on anyother hurst, not sure what they are trying to do yet though

[thecarguy]

http://www.jdfab.com/dp2/rccar.htm

Did anyone see the remote controll car they did? THis one was done a while ago, but someone on the desert racing board brought up an old thread so it reminded me and now im posting it here. JDfab does some awesome fabrication work. They built a t100 toyota that rivals some of the big name TT's as for as suspension and technology.

[Odawg]

I didn't see the remote controll car, but last week's Peterbike was awesome! Turning a Cummins engine into a trike was crazy.

That was one show I should have been on! What good is my diesel experience if I can't do something cool like that?

[Wheel]

I didn't see the first part of the show, but making the Peterbuilt into a 3 wheeler was an interesting idea.

[Wheel]

54 chevy, cut and chop...I missed the first half of the show but the car turned out nice but I would have painted it a different color.

[carsandcycles]

I had drifted away from Monster Garage lately but I'm sure glad I tuned in for the chop and channal of that awesome '54 Chevy. Those old guys were a real inspiration, and to see how it was done "Old School", with solder and determination, you got to see a true "Lead Sled". Two thumbs up from me.

[KA9MOT]

I don't watch it much anymore either..........

[Wheel]

I hope to catch the re-run of this show.

[KA9MOT]

I getting really tired of that donut making cop car. It was sucky the first time.

[Porcupine]

Me, too, I've drifted from a few shows that used to be good, mainly because those were the only show we could relate to AT THE TIME.
JunkYard wars was good then but boring now, Same with American Chopper and and Monster Garage.

Barrette Jackson "Car Search" seems to be good, Rides is good, American HotRod is good.

The old standards of TGG and Dream Car as well as American Muscle and Car Crazy, Detroit AutoLine and a few others tend to keep us happy.

My wife would like to snip Denis Gage's mustache.
Gage has good showmanship as he raves about a person's special beast.

With all these car-show hosts we see, why don't they show all THEIR individual collections. That would be a good coverage show for Barry Meguiar and what about his collection?

They showed a brief glimpse of Boyd's showroom. Let's see some more tours.

[KA9MOT]

My wife doesn't like Dennis Gage's mustache either. LOL :D

[Odawg]

Have you seen this P.O.S.? The're aren't any new tasks, you just recreate the same projects as seen on the show.

The dumbest part is that you have to use your mouse to un-do nuts and bolts. Oh, and you have to cut and weld the same way.

I think I'll file this one under "Really, really selling out".