Things I don't like

[Wheel]

I need to buy a new floor jack and a bench mounted parts buffer. My problem is everyone I've seen is made in china so they are still at the store. I want to buy Made in the USA! I went to the store to buy a couple of surge protectors but again they was made in china so they are still on the store shelf. I own a 1967 Harley Davidson and it is very hard to find parts for it made in the USA, but I did find a USA company that makes these parts. I'd rather pay more for things made in my country.
I don't like people that say "I don't care where it's made because I saved a Dollar"
I don't like walmart (The Evil Empire)...They force their selves in towns where they are not wanted and because they can buy a million gidgets at a time, they put the mom and pop stores out of business. Plus most of what they sell is junk made in china.
I don't like The presidents idea on giving the illegal immigrants
drivers license and the ok to come in this country. I don't like the people that hire illegal immigrants, they should be shot.
I don't like these people that want to take away my gun rights. I got my first gun when I was 14 years old and I've never robbed or killed anyone. Gun control does not work. They old saying goes "If guns are outlawed, only owtlaws will have them" And as Charlton Heston said "From My Cold Dead Hands"
God Bless America

[KA9MOT]

I agree with you 100% but now you have made me feel guilty about my Honda Gold Wing.

Any body wanna buy a Gold Wing? Made in the USA but the profits went to Japan.

[Odawg]

I agree with you , Wheel. Some time ago I bought a new seat and pegs for my Harley. I even bought them at the Harley dealer!

I get home and the "made in Taiwan" tag falls out of the box. That's just not right.

[danny]

i guess nobody has realized we now live in a global economy, good luck on finding everything you want made in the usa. i wish we had it this way too but the reality is that we don't. i buy american products as much as i can but i am forced to buy what i can afford also.

[vetteonr]

Hey Wheel, Michael Moore called, he wants to interview you for his next movie. Just kidding of course. You should go rent "Bowling for Columbine". It'll really make your blood boil.

[vrek]

Originally posted by vetteonr
Hey Wheel, Michael Moore called, he wants to interview you for his next movie. Just kidding of course. You should go rent "Bowling for Columbine". It'll really make your blood boil.
better yet read "Dude, Where's my country?"

[thecarguy]

go buy a toyota they are made in america.......

what the heck ever happened to supporting other countries? Are you not gonna buy gas for your truck/car because it didnt come from american gorund? What about things like televisions? Even if assembled here in the states, majority of them like the major electronice are made overseas.

Good thought of only buying american products. Then it catches on and no body will buy imported goods. Then america is looked down on even more and the other countries trade with eachother and gorw more powerful. Only thinking about yourself or your country sure is easy and convienent, but what about looking out for the other guy?

[Trader Ray]

I notice how things made in the last few years are not lasting as long as the very same things made 5-8 years ago. Am I crazy to wonder about in times of war, is there a message sent to lower quality standards as to generate more sales to boost the economy? If your tires or shoes or electronics dont last as long and you replace them sooner that helps the economy. In times of war does anyone think there is a call like this made that the general public just dont know about? Just wondering

[danny]

some of edison's first light bulbs are still burning, now it would not serve a mfg to build them that good. the term is "planned obsolescence"

[Trader Ray]

Thank You Danny, I just wanted to know that at least one person might think that what I was saying was a possibility.

[Highwayman]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
I notice how things made in the last few years are not lasting as long as the very same things made 5-8 years ago. Am I crazy to wonder about in times of war, is there a message sent to lower quality standards as to generate more sales to boost the economy? If your tires or shoes or electronics dont last as long and you replace them sooner that helps the economy. In times of war does anyone think there is a call like this made that the general public just dont know about? Just wondering

I have the same perception. Quality seems to be taking a back seat to price.

I'd like to buy American, but let's be real here, this is virtually impossible in most cases. So I look at the price, and the quality, and only if those twp criteria meet my satisfaction wil I buy something. I am a cheap skate, I hate spending any more money than I absolutely have to, so yes, i shop at Wally world. But, just because something is inexpensive doesn't mean it is a good buy. the quality has to be there, because I don't want to have to buy that same thing again anytime soon.

So while i look for the lowest price, I also look for the best quality I can, even if that means paying a bit more. Country of origin has little to do with my choice, unles all else is equal, in which case the American made product has the edge.

[Wheel]

I remember when I first heard of the Evil Empire, and seeing an ad on tv with some old guy braging about his walmart shirt and pants was made in the USA and he was buying everything from walmart because it was made in the USA. Turned out that, that was a lie. When Sam Walton was alive, walmart was a good caring company but Sam is dead and now it's The Evil Empire.

Carguy, what is wrong with looking for your own? No matter what the U.S. does, most all the other countrys hate us. We give them millions of dollars and aid that they never pay back. we save their butts when someone invades them with young men your age dieing for them and they hate us anyway. Most of them would give their mother to get in this country. I don't hear of many people trying to leave this country. I'm a mechanic in a manufacturing plant and most manufacturing job have gone to Mexico or China. I saw a piece on the news a while back where some town in the midwest was losing....I think Maytag because they are moving to mexico. That town is in for some real trouble. In Virginia, Martinsville and Danville have the two highest unemployment rates in the state because the jobs have gone to China. So, would you rather buy a product that is helping to feed the children in your country or buy a product that is being made buy someone in china that is making two dollars a day or week or whatever they make. Plus it's may be being made by some 7 year year old kid. It has to stop, or sooner or later, it's gonna bite us hard.
We need the factorys for the jobs and in case of a Big war (God forbid) so we could do like the great men and women did in WWII and be ready to build the equipment that our soldiers will need. If we went to war against China or Korea, do you think China will sell us what we need. One last thing, there is a lot of U.S. Soldiers buried in Korea because of China supplying North Korea the wepons that killed our U.S. Soldiers. Men that my father fought with.
Sorry for the long post, but dern it, don't feed the enemy!

[KA9MOT]

That town is Galesburg, IL. I have relatives there and friends and many have lost there jobs. Not just Maytag either. Butler Buildings, Gates Rubber, Carhart. As a matter of fact my mother in law worked at Carhart.

My wife and I moved here from there in 2002. Thank God! And that is just one town. Many our dealing with the same problems. That is why I am so adamant against buying foreign cars.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by Wheel
One last thing, there is a lot of U.S. Soldiers buried in Korea because of China supplying North Korea the wepons that killed our U.S. Soldiers. Men that my father fought with.
Sorry for the long post, but dern it, don't feed the enemy!

My mom and Dad met in Korea during the conflict. Mom was a WACS sergeant and dad was regular army grunt (SGT). According to my dad they were fighting the Chinese as well as the North Koreans.

And now the south Koreans hate us. And we buy their Kias and Hyundais. We are brain dead.

[Trader Ray]

The last three post are really tellinging like it is, I thank you both for posting them.

[Porcupine]

I re-read Wheel's post a couple of times and he's right on.

Yes, I'm Canadian and most Canadians feel the same way. When we buy products, we tend to think either Canadian or American and for that matter think North American.. stats 2 years ago said 85% of our export goes to the US, so I'll buy American anytime as well as Canadian.

I wrote a post yesterday on Models mostly meant in humor.
I had fun with the whole topic because the car, the 33Ford Coupe with that big honkin blower, is based on the All-American or All-Canadian dream as far as hotrodders are concerned.

I read the box and sure enough, it was made in China. not the box but the whole thing, car and box.

Mostly these items are designed here cuz who else knows what we like other than us? The design is sold to a marketing company and fabrication is jobbed out to overseas? Why? The cost is cheaper and to flip a buck they really don't care.

Some of these small companies are owned by comglomerates or multi-nationals and you know the rest fot he story.

The people that want to hear your message really don't give two hoots and are never within listening range any way. Sad but true.

But the other side of the coin is the global economics of it. Although we may gripe about it, this global process could be saving our butts as the viscious circle is completed.

I think there is and bad and good coming from this, AND I still agree with your thinking.

[Wheel]

And I still don't have a new floor jack or a bench mounted parts buffer.

[wxboilermaker]

funny you mention wal-mart as the evil empire. Lowes and home-cheapo are just as bad. Over the summers I worked for a local lumber yard. The type where you pay for what you want then drive back to the lumber piles to load up. It's a million times faster then the way the big box stores do it. Even so, we lost a ton of buissness to the big box stores when they went in. Why? When our Lowes first went in, they were selling stuff insanly low. Products we were selling at around 25 cents above cost, they were 2 dollars cheaper on. My boss's brother in law is a purcheser for them and he flat out said that when a Lowes opens in a new town, they run at a loss for the first year or so, so that surrounding buissnesses can't compete and lose their customer base.

I'm sure wally world does the same.

[Wheel]

Most hardware stores are gone from here, in fact one down the street is closing next month. When you go to the big stores, nobody knows what they are talking about.
And yes walmart is The Evil Empire and I don't go there. I also refuse to go to home-cheapo (good one). I don't buy Coke products either. I boycot all that either do things against my Southern Heritage or use their voice, money, or name to try to take away my gun rights. And did I mention that I don't like things that isn't made in the USA?

[danny]

are you writing this on your japanese componet computer?

[wxboilermaker]

haha, good call. I'm not saying I don't like foreign competition. I say if Japan wants to come here and sell stuff, let them. Without competition, the market place stagnates. Just look at what it's doing for american cars. If not for Toyota and Honda, would there be the american drive to recreate the muscle car? No way. Dodge wouldn't be reintroducing the Charger or the Rumble Bee and forget the SR/T 10. Ford would still obly be making focus's with the lighnting a mere sketch in some office.

What I don't like are companies that outsource labor to foreign countries and Conglomerates that put mom and pop stores out of buissness. Maybe once america wakes up and realizes that buying a metric ton of velveta and toilet paper by the bushel just to save 3 cents isn't better then the service and attention to detail that a smaller operation can offer. Heck, why go someplace where the employees know what they're talking about and can offer real advice when you can go buy a toilet, a coffee maker and a gold fish all in the same shop.

[KA9MOT]

Hmmmmm....things to think about. wxboilermaker you have made some very good points. Some even better then mine. Companies that outsource their manufacturing is a major problem and I don't like Wal-Mart. Maybe we should create and promote a site to convince folks to boycott wal-mart and the products of manufacturers who have outsourced these jobs.

[danny]

a grass roots movement-think it will work?

[KA9MOT]

No.....too many self serving, self centered people in this country.

[danny]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
No.....too many self serving, self centered people in this country.

no truer words have been spoken for a while

[vetteonr]

So.....if I go to any chain store or any large super center, and not a mom and pop store, I would be considered self serving and self centered?

[wxboilermaker]

yes.......j/k

I think there is a need for the big super store. If I need to buy something, and I know exactly what it is, or I need a ton of them, I'd go the a super store. If I had no clue as to what I needed or how to use or if what I wanted was the best for the job, then I would definatly go someplace that only deals with that. The problem is that too many big stores are trying to be the little store and are doing a **** poor job of it. Unfortunatly, many people don't know the difference so they just live with it.

[danny]

well you all can spend your money any way you want-it's your money. as for me if i can get the same product(key phrase-same product) for less money then guess what?

[Porcupine]

Wal-mart..did someone say Walmart?
Yes, I hate Walmart as well. The clientel it attracts is what bothers me.
I used to buy one or two "select" items as I proved those items were actually cheaper in Walmart. Then I hit that toy department. I saw those models. I didn't even see it coming. :o

Seriously, When I renovated most of our house over the past few years it was Home-cheapo. Then I built my shop, again, Home Depot. Good products and sometimes you can find stuff there that you can't find in other stores (good selection).
However, they do not have sales and I like buying power tools when on sale. Enter Craftsman. if you're patient to wait for a sale you can buy almost any Craftsman tool.

I do try to avoid stuff made overseas unless I have no choice. I'll buy Canadian/American first and I check the labels.

I know too many people that don't give two hoots about where a product is made. that keeps the global economy thriving.

It's only people like us, and there are many, that keep the local national economy thriving. At least I keep Craftsman alive :)

[KA9MOT]

I've been know to spend a little money in Canada. :o
I know, I am always preaching about spending our money in the States but Canada has a special going on. If you use the US Dollar they give you a discount. For instance I can spend $24 dollars at Pizza Hut and it only costs me $20 US. That is a pretty good deal.

[vetteonr]

But I'll bet you can only get "canadien" bacon on your pie. LOL

[danny]

craftsman power tools are made by ryobi and there new line of cordless tools are made by porter cable-things to ponder

[Wheel]

I was looking at a Craftsman sale paper and they had the ratching wrench in there. At the bottom on the add in little writing said, "imported" So I wont be buying any of those. Plus I still don't have my new floor jack and parts buffer! I told the guy a NAPA yesterday that I would have bought a floor jack they had if it would've been made in the USA and instead of china.

[Wheel]

I told my daughter that I would buy myself a bicycle so we could go riding together. She liked that idea. The problem is yesterday when I went to look at them, they was made in china. The guy at the store said that all bikes are made in china now. I have an old one behind the garage that needs new tires, tubes, seat and who knows what else. I haven't looked at it lately. Now if I go buy the things that the old bike needs, I have a bad feeling that the parts will also be made in china. I wont break a promise that I made to my daughter so now I'm stuck with maybe having to buy a chingchang. That is something that I don't like.

[Porcupine]

Originally posted by Wheel
I was looking at a Craftsman sale paper and they had the ratching wrench in there. At the bottom on the add in little writing said, "imported" So I wont be buying any of those.

Wheel:

I'll make you a deal. Since I say that I buy made in USA AND made in Canada, would you buy that Craftsman tool if you knew it was made in Canada? Or are you strictly USA? Or, is it over the cement pond that bothers you?

If you only knew how much is made here and shipped to the US, you'd be shocked. Craftsman is multi-national as well. Some Craftsman is made here, some in the states and God knows where some other Craftsman is made. Same with Snap-On, Mac and a few other brands. Mac has a good ole boy ring to it. :)

[Wheel]

I would prefer to buy USA products but would rather buy canada than china or japan. I'm not really shocked about where things come from but I don't like it. I bought some tools from a flea market about 20 years ago and in the box was a craftsman 5/8 wrench that was made in japan.
When I was working at a auto garage I bought a lot of snap-on tool and they are the best. I still buy some snap-on but for the last few years, I've mostly bought craftsman. Most of them are ok but they aint snap-on. They are cheaper in price and quality.
I do believe that some things that say Made in the USA are not which I feel should be against the law with heavy fines. I went to harbor freight a while back (I will never buy anything there) looking at buffers and didn't buy because it was made in tawian. Anyway I walked around there looking for something Made in the USA. Everything was made in china. Then I saw a power washer with an American Flag on it but under it read "Designed and Tested in the USA" Couldn't find where it was made.
So to answer your question, like I said, I would rather buy Made in the USA but would rather buy made in canada than china, japan or somewhere else "offshore"

[Wheel]

Well I did it. I went and bought a chingchang bicycle. I bought the biggest one they had and rode it up and down the driveway before I went to work. My knees almost hit the handle bars, and it feels like the pedals are too far behind the seat. When I get time, I will adjust the handle bars and seat but I think I may need to go buy a pair of butterfly handle bars to get them away from my knees and I wont have to bend foreward, and a banana seat so I can sit farther back on the bike. I hate buying something from china dern it!
The things a dad will do for his daughter.

[Porcupine]

What I don't like is when you go into a store, or a shop, or any place of retail and find out that maybe you just don't exist.

The attendant, regardless of his rank, does not acknowlege you, stops his conversation with you and caters to someone on the phone too lazy to go to the store in the first place. Or if it's a personal call, tell the caller to hold on there's a customer here.

Usually you'll hear (or should hear) "yes, sir, can I help you?" or something like that. Instead. He might just look at you and say nothing.
Looking stupid with a 2 or 3 day growth between his ears he fumbles for words. Then I wonder...should I make the first move and actually ask HIM what HE suggests?
Knowing that he hasn't got the brains to speak or to communicate, I feel that I should know more about the product that I am buying than he does and he's SELLING it.

I might ask a leading question about the product and hear back "I dunno" instead of him looking for an answer or at least saying "I really don't know, but I'll find out for you."

How do these people get these jobs?

Front line people represent companies and business. They might be ace employees doing their hands-on work but boy do they lack people skills.

[Corv8]

A couple of weeks ago I went to buy a battery for my car as I mentioned on another post .

I went to our automotive chain store Canadian ( Crappy) Tire . I went there on a week day so it was not busy at all.
I go to the part counter and the gentlemen there is on the phone and says " I will be with you in a minute I am on hold"
So I say no problem and wait.

About two minutes go by and another guy comes and helps me , this is the battery guy I mentioned in the other post and gets all bent out of shape when I ask for a battery that is not listed for my car.

Before that as he helps me LOL I am listening to the first guy on the phone that was on hold , he is ordering parts for his own truck. I turned to my wife and said do you hear this guy , he glares at me.

So as I deal with the guy I am talking to he asks me some info for the warranty , " how many Kilometers" I tell him 398,000. numb nut on the phone still to busy to help the four other people now waiting to be served says " My toyota has 430,000 km" HuH!

Its then that Batt Man gets all freaky when I won't buy the battery he suggests. so I get the Manager and get him delt with , then I tell the manager about Super Man in the phone booth who would not come out and help anyone as he orderd parts for
himself. what gives!

Now I have a lot to learn in this world, I am not a mechanic but have worked on cars for 20 years and have a good understanding of them and when I don't I ask .
But how do you ask people like that for help. it is not always like this, most of the time things go good. in the past two years the box stores have been getting worse.

So what do you do , just grin and bare it or what !!!!

[KA9MOT]

Situations like this are a perfect reason to take your business elsewhere.
Mom and Pop will always give you honest and great service because they need your business.

[thecarguy]

What brand bike did you get wheel? A cheap one? I know schwinn makes most their bikes in canada and some in vermont.

[Wheel]

I bought a Huffy from Western Auto. Someone told me that nobody makes bikes in the USA anymore. I like the place I bought it at. Small family owned place. I didn't want to go to a bike shop and pay way too much and I sure wasn't gonna go to the Evil Empire.

[thecarguy]

bike shops for the most part are still a family owned and operated thing (at least here). Of all the shops I know within 50 miles all are family type places. There is also specialized that builds their bikes here, but the bearings and gears and the metal is all cut overseas, they just weld em up and put em togheter here.

[Wheel]

I don't even know if it is any bicycle only shops around here anymore. Western Auto sells tubes, tires, seats, handle bars and all the other bike parts that one may need.

[Wheel]

That commercial bugs me.

[danny]

which one? i have seen about 3 different ones in the last month

[KA9MOT]

All of the K&N commercials are stupid. Especially the one with the twins.

[danny]

the one with the twins is stupid-i'm glad i have a "mute" button-too bad it(mute button) doesn't work on the ol' lady-lol-:D

[KA9MOT]

Yeah, I tried to use the mute button on Mellisa last night. Jeez.....what a pain she was.....I guess she wanted to spend time with me but I was busy. Just bad timing....

[danny]

i hear ya, jeez it's not enough to house, feed and give them something to drive-they want conversation-lol-i did all my talking in the beginning-i have nothing to add to her conversation now-:D

[Wheel]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
All of the K&N commercials are stupid. Especially the one with the twins.
Yea, the one with the twins is the one that bugs me. It seems like it's on a lot and it's enough to make me not buy a K&N filter. I don't remember seeing any other commercial for those filters.

[KA9MOT]

The only thing worse then the K&N Commercials is the YJ Stinger commercial, well maybe Jessie James Auto Zone commercial. YJ STinger is the worst.

[danny]

the new yj commercial has one of the wallace brothers doing it

[Porcupine]

The guys drag racing and they flip back to a burger joint

My wife hates when guys use the word "Sweeeeet"

I said what's wrong with that? that hemi IS sweeeeet.


Why does she keep rolling her eyes like that?


I told her, you know, you girls hold up a new sweater and we hear you say "Oh, isn't that just adorable?" or "That's so cute!" Geez, it's just a piece of cloth.

Well we feel our big blocks are sweet...right guys?

Actually my bench grinder is a little cutie, but don't tell the others guys that. I have an image to maintain here


:)

[Wheel]

Some of the dodge truck commercials are kind of funny.

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by danny
the new yj commercial

dumb question, YJ ? what is it

[KA9MOT]

Not a Jeep. It is a energy drink put out by Stacker 2. I don't trust their products at all because they used to use ephedrine in their products during the time that there was so much discussion about ephedrine being the cause of some people dieing and they didn't stop using it until the FDA outlawed it. Now they advertise their NEW "ephedrine free" product.

[Wheel]

Never heard of it.

[KA9MOT]

They sponsor Kenny Wallace!

[Wheel]

I have heard of stacker 2 but not the drink.

[danny]

isn't it made by stacker 2?

[KA9MOT]

Yes, that is what I said.

[danny]

derrr, lol, i guess i should take reading lessons :)

[KA9MOT]

LOL! :D Don't sweat it! LOL :D

Dang 60 second rule!

[danny]

it really bugs me when i'm standing in a checkout line and the person(usually a woman) in front of me waits until the checker is done to realize that payment is expected-this is usually followed by a long slow process of digging through a purse that could be mistaken for weekend luggage only to discover that they have no money and then the search for the checkbook followed by "can i borrow your pen? i can't seem to find mine"

how's that for a sentence? lol :)

[KA9MOT]

Ahhh yes.....one of my "Favorite" Pet Peeves.

Another is the guy buying scratch off lottery tickets and cant decide which ones he wants and then scratches them while you wait.

Or the lady who is in line in front of you, and leaves to go grab that loaf of bread she forgot but leaves her cart and kids/husband behind.

[danny]

or the ever famous-i'll be right back, i left my purse in the car

it makes me want to field goal kick 'em

[KA9MOT]

LOL :D I always make sure they are looking and start rolling my eyes......you know the way us fat people do.......LOL :D If it is a guy I'll start running my mouth.....you know....like us fat people do LOL :D

[vetteonr]

I don't like people with 16 items in their cart standing in the 12 items or less line. And they act like it's no big deal. :mad:

[KA9MOT]

Hey! 12 of those items are the same thing. If it was in a 12 pack it would only count as one item. LOL :D

[vetteonr]

I know, and a dozen eggs is still one item also. I'm willing to cut people some slack, but when they get smug about it, then it's time to get out my can of whoop-azz. One time a lady in front of me had 20 items in her cart. When I pointed it out to the cashier, the lady gave me a "so what" look. Then the cashier said it was up to me if she should move. That lady was really ticked off when she had to go to another line and wait even longer. Hopefully she won't do that again.

[KA9MOT]

That was very cold........Good Job!

[vetteonr]

Thanks, I do what I can.

[danny]

i really like it when someone will leave their cart unattended in the middle of the aisle to get something down the aisle- i usually push it aside while adding to their load- it's funny when they check out and wonder what they were thinking when some of the items they didn't even pick up get rung up-lol-:D

[Porcupine]

What about the times when you'll be walking down an isle in a store and a few people that haven't seen each other for what seems like 20 years, tend to want to congregate and choke up an isle.

They might see you coming and won't budge. You can say exuse-me all you want and they'll look at you as if that isle is their domain.

How about that car that pulls over either to pick someone up or drop some one off in the middle of heavy traffic flow on an arterial road. Why couldn't they go out of their way for half a block instead of inconveniencing traffic flow? Especially during rush hour.

[danny]

or how about you are driving down the street and no body is following you when you notice there is a car coming from a side street-they can't wait for you to pass, they have to pull out in front of you

or my all time favorite-a car has to pass you just to turn in front of you-holding you up of course

[thecarguy]

Originally posted by danny
i really like it when someone will leave their cart unattended in the middle of the aisle to get something down the aisle- i usually push it aside while adding to their load- it's funny when they check out and wonder what they were thinking when some of the items they didn't even pick up get rung up-lol-:D

LMAO...like profalactics and diarreahetics?

Nothing gets me more than standing in line at a fast food place or anywhere money is exchanged and the customer stands there for ever while sorting out the change then putting it into their wallet and then purse if applicable and holding everyone up.

[danny]

Originally posted by thecarguy
LMAO...like profalactics and diarreahetics?



what are you, a mind reader-lol-:D yeah, it is funny to see the reactions of these people when the cashier rings it up and they say that they didn't put that in their cart-lol. it just calls more attention to them

[Porcupine]

I HAVE to try that one.
Look for a husband and wife team shopping, When they're not looking throw a Playboy in their cart OR.... drop a girl's name and phone number in the cart....then listen. I can hear the rolling pin echoing off the guy's head...ouche.


1) With all this whinning we're worse than women...nah that's impossible
2) With these planned stunts we're worse than kids. We never claimed to be mature about things.

[danny]

you want maturity? i'm sure that there is a geriatric board out there that caters to that-lol-:D

[Wheel]

How about the people that are too lazy to park in a parking place so they park in the fire lane in front of the store, subshop or where ever. Most of the time, they will leave their radio with rap playing so loud that everything on the car is rattling and even if you wanted to, you couldn't understand what the heck they are saying. I'd rather hear a buffalo farting.

[Trader Ray]

We recently had a block of building burn down and there is a Food City sitting about two building down and it is the only buisness open in the shopping center, people still park at the door in the fire lane there and without a good reason as there are plenty of parking spaces now with the others gone. :mad:

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by Wheel
they will leave their radio with rap playing so loud that everything on the car is rattling. I'd rather hear a buffalo farting. Isn't that the same thing? LOL

[KA9MOT]

I don't mind this so much and have been known to do it on occasion where I am running in for a quicky. I dislike the young guys driving grannies car with the handicap sticker who park in handicapped.

[Corv8]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
I don't mind this so much and have been known to do it on occasion where I am running in for a quicky. I dislike the young guys driving grannies car with the handicap sticker who park in handicapped.

where is it that you are running in for a quicky - LOL:D

[Wheel]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
I don't mind this so much and have been known to do it on occasion where I am running in for a quicky.
So how about if you fell out in the store and rescue couldn't park where they need to be because someone is parked in the way?

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by Wheel
So how about if you fell out in the store and rescue couldn't park where they need to be because someone is parked in the way?

That is kinda' dramatic, isn't it?

[danny]

beefy, you didn't answer the "quickie" question

[KA9MOT]

You know, run in to grab a gallon of milk and some Oreos. Your there 2 minutes tops, it is 30 below and the wind is blowing 20 mph. Your still wearing shorts because it is 1 in the morning and you didn't wanna wake the wife up while getting your jeans.

[danny]

you're wearing shorts and the temp is -30 with the wind at 20 mph? are you sure you're looking for milk and oreos? lol :)

[Wheel]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
That is kinda' dramatic, isn't it?
You know that somewhere every day, someone is flaking out in a store or business. Myself, I would park in a parking spot and walk the extra 12 steps. I even park out away for the other cars so some dummy don't wack my door with theirs. So I may have to take 50 extra steps.
-30 temp....20 mph winds....1:00am.....I aint never wanted milk and cookies that bad.

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by Wheel

-30 temp....20 mph winds....1:00am.....I aint never wanted milk and cookies that bad. .....now beer and pretzels, maybe. LOL

In todays Detroit Free Press there was an interesting story in the auto section about things drivers dislike. It seems a man was pulling into a parking lot at Home Depot and saw a guy pushing a cart and putting it in the middle of a handicapped spot. He yelled at the guy and said "how can anyone park there now?" The guy just smurked and walked inside. So the man parks, gathers up about 15 carts from the lot, and put them all around guys car so he's block in. I would have loved to see the guy's reaction when he came out of the store.

[danny]

recently i have seen many imports with american flags(stickers)-who are they trying to fool?

[KA9MOT]

They think because that imported car is now built in the US it is no longer imported. Technically they are correct. Instead of the car being imported their $30,000 got exported. LOL :D

The American Way. LOL :D

[danny]

Originally posted by Beefy's Bronco
They think because that imported car is now built in the US it is no longer imported. Technically they are correct. Instead of the car being imported their $30,000 got exported. LOL :D

The American Way. LOL :D

lol i guess people can't figure out that even though the car might be assembled here the parts still come from the lands far away and the money goes to the owners who still live over there.

[KA9MOT]

You don't know how many times I have heard people say, "It is OK! They built it in California". Idiots!

[danny]

my friend that bought the tundra said that the salesman told him it was an american truck because it was assembled here so that qualifies it as american-besides they are racing it in the truck series so that confirms it-????????? where do they get these ideas?

[KA9MOT]

Brain dead.

[danny]

i'm curious if they can be stopped from saying these things-a lie is a lie-oh yeah the phrase is caviat amptor-buyer beware

[vetteonr]

You want to stop car salesman from lying?!? Good luck with that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Wheel]

When you catch them in a lie, let them know and walk away

[vetteonr]

The problem is, these guys don't care. You make them look bad, embarrass them, then they just turn around and do it again to the next guy they deal with.

[KA9MOT]

Sooner or later, all that lying is gonna catch up with you.
Like when we bought our Stratus.
Brand new car, that had been previously wrecked. Turned out it wasn't brand new either. It was a program car that previously had been a rental. After we figured it out and I confronted our salesman, he turned his back on me and walked away. The least he could have done was looked me in the eye and told me he didn'y know.
It would have been another lie but at least I would have wondered.

[vetteonr]

My brother-in-law used to sell cars when he was in his 20's. He had to quit because of ulcers. He just couldn't take lying to people anymore.

[Porcupine]

As Corv8 will vouch, we have a multitude of GM, Ford and Chrysler plants around our area. We also have a newer Toyota plant not too far from us.
We talked about this briefly sometime ago BUT...
I'd never buy a Japanese or other import. But, here have an import totally manufactured in Canada, but it's still an IMPORT.
What about the poor local guy working in these plants.
You want to support you own neighbours but don't want to buy the import.

Of course any Toy Yodas you guys might get might be made here.

Oh, well, next topic?

[Porcupine]

I absolutely hate tail gaters or when some bonehead pulls into your lane and no signal to boot.


I hate it when people stand at the door, with the door wide open talking to someone and it's the dead of winter
or
the same thing and it's the dead of summer

Either way I see wasted BTU's flying out the door.

[I hate it when people leave a frdige door open and they're the other side of the room chatting

Whiney huh?

[vetteonr]

I can't stand it when you're behind someone merging onto the freeway doing 35 mph. You're supposed to be at highway speeds by the time you get to the flow of traffic. :mad: :mad:

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by Porcupine
I absolutely hate when some bonehead pulls into your lane and no signal to boot.


What does the cellphone without a signal have to do with people pulling into your lane in front of you? Oh Nevermind........DOH!!! I am a brain dead idiot...........DUH!!!!!! I cant believe I missed the obvious.........Boy what a dummy............They are weaving trying to find a cell signal.........jeez.......I feel enlightened somehow. LOL :D

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by vetteonr
I can't stand it when you're behind someone merging onto the freeway doing 35 mph. You're supposed to be at highway speeds by the time you get to the flow of traffic. :mad: :mad:

They are just trying to get the previously mentioned cell signal. LOL :D

[vetteonr]

Don't get me started on cell phone drivers. :mad: :mad:

[Porcupine]

Cell phone drivers tend to be oblivious of their surroundings, plain and simple. I see it daily.

Another category we might want to fire up, on another thread, might allude to REALLY STUPID PEOPLE.

I was driving down a street today and an oncoming car (Mazda size) had a carpet or rug hanging out the rear window, on the driver's side. The rug was minimum 50% to 75% the width of the car. Meaning the car's width was now 1.5 its original width.

I glanced at the driver whom seemed to have a real dozy look on his face. Are these people for real?

[vetteonr]

......you mean beefy didn't wave to you? LOL ;)

[danny]

beefy hauls carpet in his mazda?

[vetteonr]

ssshhhhhhhhh...........he's trying to earn extra cash for the trip in June. LOL Don't tell Uncle Sam.

[thecarguy]

My toyota had 2 rear facing HID halogens in the area of where the trailer hitch would be. People didnt tailgate me twice. I even have been knowen to test my brakes with panic stops when people are tailgating. I read a story somewhere tho that told abnout a guy who was getting tailgated so he hit the brakes and the car hit him and the two people inside wernt wearing seatbelts and when into the windsheild and died. They guy that hit his brakes went to the pen for murder. Thats the justice system at work.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
My toyota had 2 rear facing HID halogens in the area of where the trailer hitch would be. People didnt tailgate me twice. I even have been knowen to test my brakes with panic stops when people are tailgating. I read a story somewhere tho that told abnout a guy who was getting tailgated so he hit the brakes and the car hit him and the two people inside wernt wearing seatbelts and when into the windsheild and died. They guy that hit his brakes went to the pen for murder. Thats the justice system at work.

That is the justice system at work.
People die every year because some stupid idiot decides to spike his brakes in front of them. Their only crime? They tailgated him. So, the sentence for tailgating you can be death eh? Or you'll blind them so they crash and kill somebody else? This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard someone say. And your an idiot for saying it.
Is this a personal attack? You betcha!
The proper thing to do when being tailgated is get out of the way. Slow down, let them pass. Hell, slow to a stop if ya' need too.
People like you should not have a license.

[Porcupine]

We all agree tailgating is the pits. I used hit the brakes when I was young and foolish.
Then I graduated to hitting the four-way flashers.
Now, I pull over or just get out of his way.

IT JUST AIN'T WORTH IT.

The person tailgating is either too stupid or just not aware and think that what they're doing is ok.

Because of my job, I practice defensive driving in a big way.
It's called survival. That person tailgating will be in the habit of doing it only so much until it's such a habit that he'll get caught when he least expects it. Most of them just wonder why.

[danny]

tailgating is fun, put a bbq grill and keg/ice chest of beer on the tailgate of the pickup at a game or race and the party is on.

[vetteonr]

That's the only way to tailgate danny. It sounds like our gathering in June. ;)

[Trader Ray]

I will admit that I tailgate without thinking about it, even at stop lights the wife will say "You stop to close to the car in front of you, she says she likes to stay far enough back to see the plate on the car, I tell her I am trying to read the mileage on the dash!" I do tend to ride to close, not on purpose but I do it and I am not even in a hurrry. Just a terrible habit I need to break.

[danny]

don't do it to thecarguy, you might get a close look at his undercarriage-right after you get blinded by those halogen lights

[thecarguy]

I dont do it in the silverado. I dont want anyone to hit it or anything bad to happen to it.

With my toyota I wasnt afraid of getting in accidents with a full cage, race buckets, 5 point harnesses and all that jazz, I wanted people to hit me, it would be their fault, no dammage to my tuck whatsoever due to the prerunner bumpers, and tons of dammage to the other vehicle.

You make different driving descisions when its a $30K truck vs. a $1500 truck. I still dont get over for tailgaters. If your going fast enough to pass me thats already too fast. Im not a proponent of speeding or reckless driving, but my commute is around 70-75 mph at 4am with very few people on the road. If you want to pass me in those conditions there is plenty of room to go around, deal with it.

And to touch on what vetteonr said earlier, I hate it when people slam on the brakes on freeway off ramps. THe off ramp is there for a reason, so you can gradually slow down beofre getting back into city traffic.

Another thing is people who slow down at intersections in anticipation of a red light, then speed up when it turns yellow. Just keep your speed going for gosh sakes.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by thecarguy
With my toyota I wasnt afraid of getting in accidents with a full cage, race buckets, 5 point harnesses and all that jazz, I wanted people to hit me, it would be their fault, no dammage to my tuck whatsoever due to the prerunner bumpers, and tons of dammage to the other vehicle.

You make different driving descisions when its a $30K truck vs. a $1500 truck. I still dont get over for tailgaters. If your going fast enough to pass me thats already too fast. Im not a proponent of speeding or reckless driving, but my commute is around 70-75 mph at 4am with very few people on the road. If you want to pass me in those conditions there is plenty of room to go around, deal with it.


So, it is OK to threaten the lives and safety of those around you because they can't hurt you?
I am assuming that, using your thought processes, if their is a small child in the vehicle tailgating you you don't care if you kill that person either?

You wanted people to hit you? I guess that makes you stupid too.

Maybe I can do you a favor and copy and paste your statements into an email to California's Secretary of State. Maybe if they pull you driving privileges because of stupidity a life might be saved. Maybe even yours.


You know thecarguy, until today I thought you were a pretty squared away kid. Obviously, I was mistaken. All you care about is yourself. Just another spoiled brat.

Now, go park Daddies truck before you hurt somebody

[thecarguy]

again, daddy pays for nothing.

Why the heck would someone with a small child drive erratically anyways? And if the child or they are sick, thats why there are ambulances.

Dont take this the wrong way but I never take any stock into what other people think of me.

I dont drive like that anymore, ive realized its not a smart thing to do (hitting the brakes), but will I take my foot off the pedal when someone is on my bumper? Yes. Im not a kid anymore. I used to throw stuff out the window, speed up when people wanted to change lanes and all kinds of crap, but like I said, im not a kid anymore.

Ive got a long ways to go before I get a thought process like you older (no offence), or more wise, mature, ect, folks, but until then I do what I think is right or wont cause harm, and taking my foot off the pedal is ok IMO.

[KA9MOT]

But that is not what you said. Is it?
I'll cut you some slack Tim but face it, if you hurt or kill somebody becuase of impatience or no pateince. You'll have to live with that untill you die.

You know Tim, I am going to email you a little thing that happened to me once. Watch your email.

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
she says she likes to stay far enough back to see the plate on the carYeah, but in Tennessee aren't all the plates in the back window? LOL :rolleyes:

[danny]

Originally posted by vetteonr
Yeah, but in Tennessee aren't all the plates in the back window? LOL :rolleyes:

especially in the pickup trucks-lol=here too :)

[Porcupine]

I learned today that while havng to go pee that one should refrain from sneezing....at the same time.

Newton's third law states that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. I have the proof.

So, being the industrious inventor that I am, I decided to create and invention that restricts the "reaction" portion of the process.

Think of it as a body brace tightened around your waist, latches onto your shoulders and holds your head in place.
Tiny pins would be anchored into you forehead just in case you even think about sneezing. This should keep THINGS in place and prevent the overspray that can dampen one's spirits.

I'm calling it the Sneezer-Peezer or maybe Sneezer-Pleezer.

My next one is how to harness methane during sleeping hours. :)

[danny]

do you have an excess of free time? :)

[Trader Ray]

Originally posted by vetteonr
Yeah, but in Tennessee aren't all the plates in the back window? LOL :rolleyes:

Yea, you are right. Some farm trucks dont even have a plate on the rear of the vehicle, it is in the front as they are always towing a trailer.

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by danny
do you have an excess of free time? :)

Yeah but it was funny........sounded like some of the crazy crap I come up with sometimes.

[danny]

i didn't say it wasn't funny, i was just thinking that most/all inventers are probably this way

[KA9MOT]

Kill Joy! LOL :D

[vetteonr]

Just put a clothes pin on your nose. Problem solved. ;) :p

[Porcupine]

Actually what happen is... I was listening to the radio and the announcer said something comical. Of course I twisted things and I made myself laugh. I'm happy no one was watching. I put it in a nut shell and tried it for a joke.

Everyonce in a while we will all come out with something humorous. I put it into text and it turned out not too bad. IMO, of course :) Mind you it made my wife laugh.

Just for fun guys.

BTW, my inventions are not funny. In fact I don't really invent.

[danny]

Originally posted by Porcupine

BTW, my inventions are not funny. In fact I don't really invent.

oh i see, you are afraid that someone will steal your ideas-lol-:)

[Porcupine]

Originally posted by danny
oh i see, you are afraid that someone will steal your ideas-lol-:)

I don't invent...I create, the same as you or anyone else. Some stuff works and some stuff doesn't. Besides anything I come up with, I usually share with others if it's worthy.

Trying and building is half the fun :)

[danny]

invent, create whatever it's all good-lol-i find myself making things all the time to make my job easier.

i like the idea of freedom for everybody but sometimes it's like giving a person a power position that has no idea how to use it. i'm sure that i'm not alone, many people have worked for the "boss" that had no business being the boss. the same goes for these little countries, we liberate them and then they want to call us names and tell us that we wrong the world with our views and actions. hmm, if we hadn't helped them in the first place they would not have the right/privilege to voice their opinion-i guess gratitude is out the question.

[Porcupine]

Originally posted by danny
invent, create whatever it's all good-lol-i find myself making things all the time to make my job easier.

....i'm sure that i'm not alone, many people have worked for the "boss" that had no business being the boss. the same goes for these little countries, we liberate them and then they want to call us names and tell us that we wrong the world with our views and actions. hmm, if we hadn't helped them in the first place they would not have the right/privilege to voice their opinion-i guess gratitude is out the question.

You just nailed something that is so true. I try to avoid political comments (here) because every has his own.

However, that said. Most all on this forum live in a free country . We can come and go as we please. We have the right to be an entrapeneur...or not.

We are used to the freedoms we have because that's the way we live. We were brought up by our parents and our educational system to be allowed to think free. For those others. It's all new to them. They don't undertsand freedom and what we're trying to accomplish. You and I and many others agree with what we're TRYING to accomplish. Maybe others don't see it that way. I'll term it as human evolution (for now). Like kids, they learn what they live.

To used an overused term, those 3rd world people were never allowed and never encouraged to "Think Outside The box".

Freedom is a way of life. Those very people we are freeing are now adapting to a new way of life. It's not easy for some. The young ones will learn what freedom is. The older a person is, the harder it is to adapt to new thinking or new ways.


Just my opinion.

[danny]

i am not too political either and you are right, it is like learning a new job or language, one has to practice it some before they get the hang of it.

[Wheel]

We have a couple of idots who happen to be from across the ocean that can take a machine that may have a small problem and adjust it and adjust it some more, until it wont do anything. Then they shrug their shoulders and go on to the next thing to destroy or may just go hide. Then myself or one of the other two mechanics that have a brain, will have to go to the line and try to get it back to running order. Sometime it's a big job and you can't ask them what they did to it because they have no idea. You cant help but wonder how can they screw it up so bad. You can see the terror on the operatiors faces when they see one of them coming to their line. We have talked about welding their tool boxes shut.

[Wheel]

Near my home, out on the main road the highway splits to four lanes to go through an intersection with another main road and then back to two lanes. For some reason, folks think they must pass you before the road turns back to two lanes. I don't mind people passing me if they get on up the road, but for some reason they pass and then either hit the brakes to turn into a store or they just poke down the two lane with a line of cars behind them. It's enough to want you want to put the bumper to them. I don't speed through town but I don't drive 15 in a 35 speed limit zone either.

[danny]

this is a great stress reliever, when somebody does something so inconsiderate like the above post, i have no problem putting the horn button to work. they are lucky i don't havge a p.a. system so i can tell them how great they are-lol-:)

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by danny
they are lucky i don't havge a p.a. system so i can tell them how great they are-lol-:) That's why I miss my CB. I had a PA speaker hooked up to it. ;)

[Porcupine]

I still have mine and my main one is the Uniden 2510. I have that one hooked in company truck for when I travel, hear truckers during accidents on major highways or will warn the odd trucker if I hear his tires flopping. But more importantly I talk skip in the fall time.

I have a couple of PA's but haven't used them in many years.
When I did use them I used to have a lot of fun as you suggested. Great at family reunions..."NOW HEAR THIS.... NOW HEAR THIS". Been there, dine that. Got boring after a while. But like anything else, a person get's a renewed interest.

[Trader Ray]

I was cut off while driving a 92 Camaro, the vehicle that cut me off was a compact 4X4, many of us race fans might remember when Earnhardt hit Terry Labonte and spun him across the finish line at Bristol a few years back and Labonte won with a smokin No. 5 car, well I got so close to that 4X4 that their hitch was about half way over my hood. I was under the rear quarter of the truck. Tinted windows on the truck and I could not see who it was. I finally backed off as I wanted to spin that truck real bad, and came to my senses. The next day at work the boss was cracking up at me and say's it was him and his newer truck. One I had not seen. He had done it on purpose and almost got the bad end of his own prank. :mad:

[Wheel]

Night Shift

Going into work in the afternoon when the sun is shining and the birds are singing just plan sucks. I've been doing it for about 2 1/2 years this go around and I'm not gonna do it much longer. One way or another, I'm going back to day shift. If it means going to another job, thats ok too. Some folks like night work but I miss getting up early in the morning and getting of in the afternoon. Now with warm weather here, I can't take it any longer. Plus I miss my family during the week. Just something else I don't like.

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by s10 blazer
I was cut off while driving a 92 Camaro Is this another new ride in the s10 stable?

[Corv8]

I work night shift as well but a little different than yours.

I go to work at 7 pm and finish my shift at 7 AM , thats 12 hours and it bites.
you do that for 3 shifts and you are completely burn out after them. don't let anyone tell you how great the 3 or 4 days off are, because there is no one around except the dogs and cats of the neiborhood. no friends and family.

[KA9MOT]

Try being an over the road Truckdriver.
You are gone for a week at least, usually 2 weeks to 1 month, sometimes more.
When ya' get home, you find out that the old lady took off with the kid and married some guy in Georgia, or just moved the new boyfriend in to your house (both happened to me).
Somebody stole your stuff while you were gone and nobody cared.

What a lousy way to make a living.......

[Porcupine]

Heading due east bound and that sun is burning wholes in your eyes.

What's worse than that?

Heading due west bound on the return trip, late afternoon.

[Corv8]

Beefy

OK that bites and then some, and then some more !

Well I guess things are looking up on my end.

[KA9MOT]

Don't get me wrong.....I loved being a truck driver...........I still miss it......I am so glad I no longer drive a truck.
Spending time with family is so much better.

[danny]

...and you wouldn't have too much time to help all those you have helped here either :)

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by danny
...and you wouldn't have too much time to help all those you have helped here either :)

Thanks Danny! That was a very nice thing to say. :D

[danny]

only stating the facts

[KA9MOT]

Originally posted by danny
only stating the facts

"blush"

[vetteonr]

Stop danny, his helmet won't fit for the trip coming up. LOL

[danny]

lol-- helmet laws are enforced in mi.? in ok you don't have to wear one but in certain towns/cities you do. it's a good idea to keep one's brain housing covered. :)

[vetteonr]

Yes, Michigan has a helmet law. Every couple of years they try to get it overturned, but it never happens.

[KA9MOT]

Michigan has absolutely no grasp on the concept of traffic laws. On their Interstates the speed limit for cars is 70 or 75. If you are a big truck it is 55. Is that a recipe for disaster or what?

A DOT cop pulled me over for doing 67 in Western Michigan in 2002. I didn't bring the subject up, but he told me, "that split speed limit gets people killed all the time, I'd rather see everybody running 65, but it is my job to enforce the law".
I thought that comment was kind of humorous. I didn't mind paying the $110 so much.

[carsandcycles]

Your're right Beefy, it has been proven it is not so much the speed, but the disparity of speed that is dangerous. If it were the speed, the solution would be a 15 mph speed limit for the entire world. Very few issues are black and white, just about everything is a shade of grey.

[vetteonr]

That's strange beefy, I've never seen a big rig doing 55. The only ones that are close to it are the semis that say "US MAIL" on the side of them.

[KA9MOT]

LOL :D I am sure you haven't. Well Swift trucks maybe. That is just what the speed limit is and they do enforce it.

[Wheel]

When I went to Michigan 6 months ago, it didn't look like anyone was doing the speed limit. If you only ran the speed limit, you would be run over. Even in the rain, folks was flying down the highway.

[danny]

that's the way it is here- the posted speed limit seems to be the minimum speed lol

[vetteonr]

Originally posted by danny
the posted speed limit seems to be the minimum speed lol Isn't that the way it's supposed to be? LOL:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Porcupine]

One:
Driving down the street and coming across a man or woman holding onto a smaller dog while driving, ususally poodle or other smaller bread. The dog is usually between driver and steering wheel and sometimes often seen peering out the driver's window. Some times I wish I was cop.

Two:
driving under an overpass and loosing that AM radio signal just when that one sentence was to be used while the announcer completes his thought.

Three:
watching people smoking in their car with windows rolled up with kids in the back seat. I saw that this week (poor kids) 3 or4 years old

Four:
the weather report constantly warns of rain and it doesn't come. In the mean time your vehicle needs a wash BAD, but afraid to waste your time washing because of Murphy's Law.
Or you test fate, you wash it and the LORD says "I told you so HAHAHA" (think Bill Cosby, with his Noah routine. 60's/70's.

Five:
sitting at an intersection waiting for the lights to change. You catch a 22milisecond glimpse of a miniskirt kitti-corner and down another 50 feet. A truck pulls up and blocks your view. What's worse than that? He pulls away, you gain another 10milisecond glimpse and ANOTHER truck blocks things again, What's worse than that? Traffic has cleared .....and she's gone.

And this is only Thursday OMG !!!!

[Wheel]

I don't like walmart (The Evil Empire)...They force their selves in towns where they are not wanted and because they can buy a million gidgets at a time, they put the mom and pop stores out of business. Plus most of what they sell is junk made in china.
I don't like the people that hire illegal immigrants, they should be shot.
God Bless America
I don't like the fact the the company I work for is closing down the USA plant where I work and moving to Mexico. I can deal with the losing my job as the place sux anyway and I can find another job.
I've talked on here before about American jobs going to mexico, or china. or any other country and how one day it's gonna bite us in the butt. The ones that are doing this already have theirs and figure that before things get too bad, they will be dead so who cares?

[Stormy]

I just read through this thread and there are some very intresting posts in here for sure.

You guys were talking about people almost causeing a bad accident

one time i was Driving on I-75 and was just about to my exit as mentioned previously we drive pretty fast here so i was flying along but actually doing around the speed limit it had already been raised........so i was doing about 65 or 70 and i come up on a car going 25 not only did i have to practically stand on my brakes to slow down to 25 i looked in my rearview mirror and saw a semi truck barrelling at me

luckily there wasnt a lot of traffic and no one in the next lane over and he was able to get over real fast and he flew past me like a rocket it seemed he never would have been able to stop he probably would have sent my little compact car i had at the time flying...........I wanted to pull the people out of that car and beat them...........I was shaking so bad i had to pull over and sit for a min till i could hold on to the steering wheel.

[Porcupine]

and i come up on a car going 25 not only did i have to practically stand on my brakes to slow down to 25 i looked in my rearview mirror and saw a semi truck barrelling at me

luckily there wasnt a lot of traffic and no one in the next lane over and he was able to get over real fast and he flew past me like a rocket .

Two people at fault here.
The person doing 25 has no concept of what's around them. If you knowingly get on to a highway and sorta know the speed of that highway then you should be matching speeds fairly quickly, be they slow or be they fast. We can all bet that that person was possibly a senior. They lose perspective of surroundings and time. They think and act slower.

The second person is the trucker, who sits high up and can see all around. He should have been driving defensively just to anticipate situations like this. We know that he saw exactly what was going on but failed to adjust to the circumstances. Beefy knows that's there good and bad truckers. 90% of the truckers I see are great, responsible drivers. It's that 5% or 10% that is our threat.

Stormy, people like you are in the middle just being the average good driver and faced with two extremes.

>>>You're driving down a highway and it's real foggy. You can barely see in front of you. You're driving according to the conditions. All of a sudden some idiot decides to drive by at double your speed.<<<<

What really scare us, is that these people are allowed to vote.

[Stormy]

i agree with you on most of that porkie and a lot of times if traffic is slowing down i start getting over where the truckers are getting over since they can see far ahead and know what lane to get into.........but i cant put that much blame on this trucker as there is a slight curve just before i came up on this car so he probably didnt see it. That is one driving experience i will never forget though let me tell you. I am surprised i didnt pee my pants when i looked in the mirror.........LOL :eek:

I was mostly angry at the person in the car we were no where near an entrance to the freeway we were coming up on the exit i needed to get off at so it cant even be assumed that they had just gotten on the freeway and was still accerating which is still no excuse since as was posted here before the on ramps are there for you to get up to speed to get on the freeway.

Another time i was getting on the freeway and right where you get to the part to merge this little old man in a hat (you always have to look out for old men in hats and little old ladies that can barely see over the dash) lol anyway he had come to a full stop to wait to merge into traffic and had screeching brakes all behind him.........i thought i was going to get rearended that day too. Luckily i am a very defensive driver and have avoided situations that could have been really bad accidents cause i was aware and took action to avoid it.

P.S. Guys I read this whole thread from beginning to end and i loved the little comments on women drivers :rolleyes:

[Porcupine]

Well, Stormy. I can only say one thing. What ever vehicle one drives. You know the basic weight (momentum) of that vehicle based on speed driven. You know your own driving experiences and how good or how no so good you might be.
When any driver comes around a curve, whether he know that curve or not, you always anticipate the worst. THAT is defensive driving. I'm not disagreeing with you but rather adding to what you said. I don't know any formulas, but there is a certain magic distance between what you see and the unknown ahead of you.
I do recall that there should be a car-length per 10 MPH between you and the car in front of you. More should be added for foggy or wet conditions and other parameters. Even more for icy conditions.
When you see those butt-kissers (tailgaters), then they have no regard for safety of others, let alone their own life. Some people even go so far as to think that the rules don't apply to them. That it might be based on studies brought on by politcians. And boy do we all hate politicians.

Not to over use the words, but the word "rude" or "ignorant" comes to mind. These are the same people to step in front of you when you're in Walmart. People that steal you parking spot right when you're aiming for it.

hmmm, the list continues

[Stormy]

I know porkie I know.......unfourtantly I know exactly the kind of people you are talking about. I always try to show common curtesy with people and expect the same back and some times i get it but a lot of time i dont.
I hate it when people are like that and i work very hard in instilling manners into my children..........and it has actually worked.........not with me of course i am just their mother as it always goes but whenever they go to someones house even if its to stay the night or just for a few hours i usually hear how good and helpfull and polite they are........so i know i am doing something right LOL

[Highwayman]

Stormy lives in MI so she may have witnessed this:

One thing I hate is split speed limits. That is, different speed limits for cars and for trucks. Several states have them, but Michigan is the worst - 55 for trucks, 70 for cars. In my opinion (which has been backed up by several near misses), this is a stupid idea.

It is a proven fact that traffic flows best and is safest when all vehicles are travelling at about the same speed. So what is the stupid logic in slowing trucks down?

I have lost count how many times I have almost had a car go under my rear bumper because they were runing 75, 80+ mph, and they come up on my 55-60mph butt!! And of course, most car drivers do not look much beyond their hoods, so the morons don't see me until the last moment. But they canot do a quick lane change into the left lane because there is a line of traffic with each car following the one in front of it so closely that there isn't room for another car to slide in.

And of course, for the wonderful privledge of driving that much slower than car traffic, and having the Michigan DOT target trucks for speed violations (they will stop a truck for 5 over, but will let a car go 10+ over the limit!?!?!) we are rewarded with having to endure the nations crappiest roads.

[Stormy]

Yup i know exatcly what you mean Highwayman...............although with the location of my home and my work i dont use the freeway as much as i used too.

I wondered whos brilliant idea that was when they did it i liked the speed limit raise but i could never understand the big difference in the speed limits.

[Wheel]

If you've watched the news, you've see the big meeting in New York at the UN. The devels from countrys that want to kill us are allowed to come over here and lie like the dogs that they are and will be able to go back to their homeland and continue with their plans. They should be jailed at the very least. Hard times are coming and it's not too far off.

[Daniel Wood]

A million barrel's of oil a day coming from that sorry b@#%tard! Something has to give somewhere.

Chavez needs the taste slapped out of his mouth along with Castro!

If the US (I don't know about Canada) doesn't buy the oil, it's no sweat off their butt. Japan and China will take up the slack gladly. JMO

[Porcupine]

A million barrel's of oil a day coming from that sorry b@#%tard! Something has to give somewhere.

Chavez needs the taste slapped out of his mouth along with Castro!

If the US (I don't know about Canada) doesn't buy the oil, it's no sweat off their butt. Japan and China will take up the slack gladly. JMO
I knew for the longest time that Canada was a leader in crude production. I also knew that Canada [the Tar Sands] was the second highest producer of crude. I heard on the radio this morning that Canada is now the highest or biggest producer of crude to the US. Plus of course there are different kinds of crude. I have no idea how true that statement is. We only know what we hear on media and print.
I know we have our own refineries but I also know that we send most of our crude State side to be refined and then the US sells it back to us, not to mention what the US buys from us. The MOST important factor here is: there's more to the logistics than mentioned here.

At least we don't hold any one hostage :D and we're a bunch of good ole boys as well.
BTW gas price this morning was 0.79. I bought last night at 0.80, sloooowly dropping.

Of course we ALL have to admit there's more happening in those board rooms than the media knows. Plus the board rooms will only tell the media what they want us to know. It sure sucks to be Joe Consumer these days.

[Wheel]

Venezuela owns Citco, so with every U.S. Dollar is spent on Citco gas a portion goes to Chavez. He has signed a Billion Dollar arms deal with Russia.
http://www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/09-21-06-pod.jpg
Wonder what Venezuela needs with a Billion Dollars worth of arms?